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A Third Name Surfaces (Able Danger - Atta)
New York Times via Power Line | 08-22-05 | Unknown

Posted on 08/22/2005 9:33:38 PM PDT by mercy

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To: Sacajaweau

Well, like I always say ... DC is a foetid swamp of power whores, propagating their diseased infection throughout the land with their ceasless fornications.

When it's throat cutting time slime dwellers know no party affiliation. Their loyalty, to heave filth upon a decent word, is to the power source ... the swamp itself.


41 posted on 08/23/2005 10:35:46 AM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: FOXFANVOX
BTW, the BIG question has always been why Jamie Gorelick was on the commission to begin with, considering her involvement as a major direct cause for blocking the sharing of information. At the least, she should have stepped down and testified on the record. [Yeah right!]

See post #41.

42 posted on 08/23/2005 10:38:43 AM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: Brimack34
What the heck is a center-right?

It means unthinking whore for the RNC.

43 posted on 08/23/2005 10:40:30 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (The constitution is not in exile, it's in a nice safe deposit box in the Cayman Islands - Lileks)
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To: brazzaville

Good saying.

I'm 75% of the way there already. I'm just waiting for a final sign. Hitllery as POTUS will be irrefutable.


44 posted on 08/23/2005 10:40:48 AM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: Mia T
Sorry, Mia, but the 'efficient cause' of 9/11 was terrorists flying airplanes into buildings. Not a memo.
45 posted on 08/23/2005 10:51:32 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: All
May I point out ... as does the title of this thread:

Their are THREE Able Danger Witnesses Now

Please take note Rush, Hannity, Drudge et al

46 posted on 08/23/2005 10:53:49 AM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: lugsoul

Point. Perhaps Mia could insert the word 'enabling' before 'efficient cause'. Or 'correspondent'.


47 posted on 08/23/2005 10:57:27 AM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: lugsoul; mercy
Sorry. I was not clear. I was not saying the efficient cause was the memo. I was saying it was Gorelick's Wall. I linked to the Mary Jo White memo because it warned Ms. Gorelick of precisely this danger. (Gorelick-clinton-clinton failure to heed this warning underscores Gorelick-clinton-clinton treasonous malfeasance, in my view)....

I am defining an efficient cause as a first principle from which an effect flows forth, or on which an effect depends, by means of an action.

The terrorist pilots don't satisfy this definition. The Gorelick Wall does.

48 posted on 08/23/2005 11:18:34 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: mercy

Mercy me, Mercy. Way to tell it like it is!


49 posted on 08/23/2005 11:20:31 AM PDT by FOXFANVOX (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Mia T
Even by that definition, you are way off.

Let me say, up front, that I AM NOT defending the Wall. It was an idiotic notion. But the Wall did not cause any action to happen, or set in motion any action. The MOST that can reasonably be argued is that the Wall may have prevented actions which could have interdicted the plot. That's all.

I say may have because, despite the Wall, we had plenty of clues that weren't followed through or treated seriously enough to interdict the plot. FGS, we knew that two AQ terrorists attended an AQ meeting in Kuala Lumpur and then entered this country. Nothing. Even Able Danger is being overblown a bit - it wouldn't have been hard to ID Atta without it - all it wouldn't taken was surveillance of the known terrorists we knew were here.

That being said - maybe it could've been interdicted, and if so the Wall played a part in it.

But you can't blame a murder on the cop in the doughnut shop a block away.

50 posted on 08/23/2005 11:25:49 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: Mia T

Keep up the good work Mia. I've always liked your stuff. Good to see you so active!


51 posted on 08/23/2005 11:30:47 AM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: brazzaville

Sorry, Michael, missed your post on my first run thru. I am a little older than you and doing more than one Thread is testing my computer skills.

And thanks for your service my, friend.


52 posted on 08/23/2005 11:34:08 AM PDT by FOXFANVOX (Freedom is not free.)
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To: FOXFANVOX

heh heh heh

It comes out different each time. I think I'll make note of this one as I like the way it rings. ;)


53 posted on 08/23/2005 11:34:53 AM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: All
I really cannot encourage everyone enough to check out captainsquarters blog as it really is THE first rate source right now on Able Danger.

There is some really good stuff up right now.

I have never been a blog reader untill the last week. Now I've got five of them bookmarked and check them many times a day. This Able Danger thing is our best chance in a long time to nail the truth to the sinkmeister and it burns. It burns. He can't stand it.

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/

54 posted on 08/23/2005 11:44:52 AM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: lugsoul
I see your point.

Perhaps the difference is whether one views the Wall as necessary, or even sufficient, to produce 9/11.

I don't think one can analyze this the same way one would analyze, say, some chemical reaction or some staid syllogism. The variables here are vague, subjective, not quantifiable, etc.

The way I look at this: Remove the Wall and would you get 9/11?

Better yet, remove the clintons and would you get 9/11? (It likely escaped your notice but I confess I've called clinton the proximate cause of 9/11. Many times.) ;)

My answer to both questions is 'No."

BIN LADEN FINGERS CLINTON FOR TERROR SUCCESS (SEE FOOTAGE)
THE THREAT OF TERRORISM IS AS CLOSE AS A CLINTON IS TO THE OVAL OFFICE



55 posted on 08/23/2005 11:51:33 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: capt. norm
LOL, I think he was being sarcastic about the wall gorelick made.

Because of his new position he was not permitted to take the information with him to his new job.

56 posted on 08/23/2005 12:03:38 PM PDT by mware (Trollhunter of NoteI think Rummy)
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To: mware
Hannity starts his show saying there are TWO witnesses.

SHEESH! How hard is it to read the top blogs? They ALL have this. 18 HOURS OLD!

AND THEY HAVE STAFFS!

57 posted on 08/23/2005 12:13:01 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: Mia T
"Remove the Wall and would you get 9/11?"

Who knows?

If the two guys coming in from Kuala Lumpur are simply on a list, would you get 9/11?

If the FBI surveils these two guys - who are renting a place from a paid FBI informant - would you get 9/11?

If DC listens to FBI field people in Phoenix or Minneapolis about the funny goings on with Arabs in flight schools, would you get 9/11?

It is not all about the Wall. People made mistakes. People didn't follow through on information. There is no reason to believe that more information wouldn't made all the difference.

58 posted on 08/23/2005 12:13:03 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: lugsoul

I agree. Who knows?! Social science isn't physics. ;)
It is just my (reasoned, I hope) opinion.


59 posted on 08/23/2005 12:27:52 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: mercy

Yeah three now, and Rummy saying the pentagon told the committee about ABLE DANGER and NGC airing a two part show that all but shouted out ABLE DANGER.


60 posted on 08/23/2005 12:28:17 PM PDT by mware (Trollhunter of NoteI think Rummy)
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