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Immigrant bashing won’t fix problems
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | August 23, 2005 | Editorial

Posted on 08/22/2005 1:10:58 PM PDT by bayourod

Illegal immigration is a complex national problem.

It won’t be solved by piecemeal attacks such as that of GOP gubernatorial hopeful Jerry Kilgore in opposing a day laborer site in Herndon.

Such tactics fuel anti-immigrant prejudices while skipping the hard part, acknowledging the broad tradeoffs and difficult compromises necessary for a permanent solution.

If exploitation of nativist emotion isn’t Kilgore’s intention, then he should pull the plug on this line of campaigning.

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At issue is the proposal of a coalition of community organizations to open a day laborer site in a soon-to-be abandoned police station straddling the Herndon-Loudoun County line. Currently, scores of men gather daily at a nearby convenience store to await the arrival of private employers who hire them for day labor in construction, yard work, and the like.

Kilgore joined critics calling the proposed site a haven for illegal immigrants and a breeding ground for illegal activity.

But others argue convincingly that an official site, including a police or security presence, would more likely contain bad behavior while serving both small-time employers and legal workers. The Herndon council validated that view with a 5-2 vote Wednesday to open the center.

No doubt, some illegals will turn up there. But frustration with U.S. failure to stem the flow of illegal immigration ought to be directed toward Congress, the immigration service or others with an opportunity to make a real difference.

Virginians who grouse about illegal immigrants should open their eyes and see who’s really tending their lawns, putting new shingles on their roofs, cleaning toilets in their office building and hotels. Illegal immigrants are doing the dirty jobs that Virginians don’t want.

Kilgore characterized the problem in Herndon as one of illegals taking “hard-earned dollars from law-abiding citizens.”

In fact, the issue there and elsewhere wouldn’t exist except for America’s addiction to cheap labor. Undocumented workers sustain many of the services and prices Americans have come to expect.

Politicians as diverse as President George Bush, GOP Sen. John McCain and Democratic Sen. Edward Kennedy acknowledge that a much-expanded temporary worker program, combined with some form of enforceable amnesty for illegals with long tenure here, is the only hope for getting a handle on the problem.

Name-calling about undocumented workers who supposedly leach the system dry might win votes. But it won’t make the problem go away.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aliens; bravosierra; deport; deportdeport; deportdeportdeport; dubeckons; goawayrod; illegals
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To: caisson71

Let the sniveling liberals who want to give our country away play their stupid race card all they want. It's not working anymore.


281 posted on 08/22/2005 5:38:31 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: bayourod
I already have "anti-Christian" and "anti-Catholic" on my list of things that some Antis are anti, but thinks for reminding everyone again.

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"I saw Antis hiding under my bed!
Why won't anybody believe me?"

282 posted on 08/22/2005 5:40:16 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: cartman90210
"Oh, by the way, it's been more than a few posts since you trotted out the "Buchanan/Tancredo crowd" line. Saving it for a rainy day? "

I get the impression that not everything is love and bliss in the Buchanan/Tancredo camp. Looks like Tancredo is trying to crawfish on Buchanan and Buchanan is threatening to find a new candidate to run for president in 2008.

When they entered into their partnership Tancredo was looking at giving up his Congressional seat anyway because he had promised a voluntary term limit.

Now that he has crawfished on that promise he can safely sit in Congress the rest of his life being treated like royalty as long as he doesn't alienate too many people in power. Except for that pesky agreement to run for president.

That would mean giving up his Congressional seat. Most ex-Congressmen become pathetic figures within a few years when they realize that their friends weren't really friends and that their jokes aren't really funny and that women aren't really sexually attracted to thim...

I'm stocking up on popcorn and sitting back watching this play out. My guess is that he's already done his mea culpas to Rove, DeLay and Melhman.

283 posted on 08/22/2005 5:41:57 PM PDT by bayourod (Blue collar foreign laborers create white collar jobs. If they come they will build it.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

This policy is sheer idiocy..


284 posted on 08/22/2005 5:43:02 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Itzlzha
No, just serfs and slaves, as you LOVE that illegal "cheap labor" so your $0.39 lettuce is nice and cool, and those houses that sell for $250K were built with labor margins so low, that the builders don't hire AMERICANS anymore!

Yup, and all that capital going back to Mexico is SOOOO good for the American economy...just how does it help the local American economy, all that $$$ sent south?

Oh yes those evil builders, who take the financial risk to build things, even with the obstacles govt.puts in front of them such as excessive regulations and taxes.

Time to tar and feather them.

The more you post, the more shrill you get, just like hillary.

285 posted on 08/22/2005 5:43:56 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: bayourod

And open borders will!!!

cry me a river!


286 posted on 08/22/2005 5:44:27 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (@)
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To: Uncle Vlad; bayourod
Let the sniveling liberals who want to give our country away play their stupid race card all they want. It's not working anymore.

It works for bayuroud

287 posted on 08/22/2005 5:45:23 PM PDT by Shazbot29 (Light a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day; light him on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: judgeandjury; Itzlzha

You really should ask Itzlzha's permission before posting his picture.

288 posted on 08/22/2005 5:47:12 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Shazbot29

did you happen to see posts #33 and #54? you'll find them very relevant to the "race card"


289 posted on 08/22/2005 5:47:12 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: judgeandjury
" I don't believe in rewarding people for violating our laws. "

No one is being rewarded. In fact, just the opposite, most proposals contain a fine or penalty far greater than under present law.

290 posted on 08/22/2005 5:47:23 PM PDT by bayourod (Blue collar foreign laborers create white collar jobs. If they come they will build it.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
That's the same as the only 50% of the illegals get caught number you use. Where do you get them from? What part of the word illegal don't you understand?

Hunh? Wasn't me. I challenged bayourod on that figure too. He just seems to pull most of his facts and figures out of his culo.

291 posted on 08/22/2005 5:48:47 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Map Kernow

Sorry, I meant that post for bayousierra.


292 posted on 08/22/2005 5:52:03 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terrorists-beyond your expectations!)
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To: bayourod

We do not "bash" immigrants. We simply expect them to OBEY the laws of our country and STOP entering our country ILLEGALLY.


293 posted on 08/22/2005 5:52:03 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: Shazbot29; bayourod
"Since I know you don't have to live with any of these things I have described which are the very real costs of illegal immigration you white wine liberal."

In our conservative circles around here, we call RINOs like bayourod "brie nibbling, chardonnay sipping liberals".

Seems to fit this particular quisling.

294 posted on 08/22/2005 5:52:24 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: bayourod
Free health care, free education, free housing, yeah no reward at all. Traitor.
295 posted on 08/22/2005 5:53:18 PM PDT by Shazbot29 (Light a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day; light him on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: bayourod
No one is being rewarded. In fact, just the opposite, most proposals contain a fine or penalty far greater than under present law.

And they would be enforced at the same level as sanctions under the current law, right, bayourod? In other words, NOT AT ALL. Americans aren't going to buy a pig-in-a-poke like the 1986 amnesty again.

Throw illegals out.

Put scofflaw employers out of business and in jail.

Build the wall on the Mexican border, from the Ocean to the Gulf.

296 posted on 08/22/2005 5:53:20 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: bayourod
"Sorry, I don't buy the line that people oppose illegal laborers simply because they are illegal."

It looks like you're implying that those that oppose illegal aliens are racists. I know how you object when people suggest that you've posted such a sentiment so could you please clarify the meaning of that statement?
297 posted on 08/22/2005 5:54:50 PM PDT by mthom
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To: bayourod
No doubt, some illegals will turn up there. But frustration with U.S. failure to stem the flow of illegal immigration ought to be directed toward Congress, the immigration service or others with an opportunity to make a real difference.

The first and last answer to stemming the flow of illegal immigration ought to be directed toward the illegals. We will pull the rug out from under the feet of the invaders created through 30-40 years of liberal ideology that has threatened to destroy this country. If you don't have legal papers to be here you have no rights to argue about who does what job at what price or drivers licenses, or voting, or medical assistance.

There has been a wakeup call in America and you are witness to it, nothing will ever be like it was again and we will make damn sure of it. All those making nonsense talking points in support of illegals are traitors.
298 posted on 08/22/2005 5:58:42 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: bayourod

The other evening you said we were all anti-everything. You mean there might be a few exceptions?


299 posted on 08/22/2005 5:59:42 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Bayourod-beyond your expectations!)
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To: bayourod
"No one is being rewarded. In fact, just the opposite, most proposals contain a fine or penalty far greater than under present law."

Far greater but still so trivial as to amount to a mere slap on the wrist for lawbreaking.

Why don't you tell the whole story about these miniscule fines instead of, as usual, trying to mislead the unwary with your half-assed drivel.

How much are you being paid in your position as Chief Pimp for the OBL/cheap labor lobby?

Did I mention that you are a total disgrace to this country?

300 posted on 08/22/2005 6:00:07 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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