This from the poster who claims islamic law isn't "so bad".
You are deliberately attempting to obscure the truth.
Under sharia, women CANNOT initiate divorce, and you know it. Women are treated unequally, and your verbal gymnastics attempting to claim otherwise have simply reinforced my statements.
I have done my research. You are in full taqiyya mode...
You:
"Here's some proof. Not we, but you haven't heard about them because a) they don't blow up buildings and b) you don't bother to research."
You've provided NO PROOF. While I cite texts and back up all I have stated, you submit....nothing.
It is clear you are a muslim who dislikes any scrutiny or troubling passages of your faith...
The following describes your tactics. Oh yes, they have too been used before, most unsuccessfully:
YOU: "Yes, they do, and they interpret them differently. Do you even know that there are different schools of jurisprudence in Islam? How much weight do you think a Shiite gives a Hadith with Aisha as the source?"
*"Some Muslims use the weak Hadith defense, because they approach Muhammad with their own wishful presuppositions. So, they automatically reject any Hadith that does not meet the standard of their uncritical assumptions"
*Now, it is true there were many Hadiths that were rejected by ancient traditional Muslim scholars. They rejected them because these traditions were fabricated (maudu’) for political reasons long after Muhammad died. But these were discarded long before the trusted collections were compiled.
Hmm, if a muslim rejects hadith antiRepub, it would make him a heretic, a blasphemer, and earn him a death sentence.
*"Many Muslims today are using what is called a “weak Hadith defense” to divert the criticism non-Muslims are heaping upon Muhammad based upon the behavior that is recorded in these ancient and traditional Islamic sources."
Which is what you've done.
Regarding all those muslims who don't accept the hadith...
It's crap...they do if they consider themselves muslims.
*". The Sahih Al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim collections are considered to be authentic historical records by orthodox Muslims. So, a weak Hadith defense is unjustified when these sources are used to critique Muhammad sayings and behavior."
"The law is indeed based on the interpretation of the Quran, Hadith and Sunna. That interpretation will be done by those in power according to their idea of how things should be."
No, absolutely false...islamic law in NOT based on the whims of individuals.
*"When a Hadith meets all the proper qualifications for a sahih Hadith, it must be accepted by all Muslims. A sahih Hadith is an obligatory Hadith—it is the Prophet’s Sunnah. It must be acted upon according to the consensus of the Muslim scholarship. The sahih Hadith are those used as the sources of Islamic jurisprudence (Usul al-Fiqh). They are used as proof in cases involving Islamic Shari’ah law. They make our observance of Islam’s Five Pillars possible."
YOU: "They even have specific words for wife-initiated divorce, khul' or haqq-i-faskh, depending on the situation."
Ha! Is that what you think Khul' or haqq-i-faskh means? So your "scholarly information" of islam is based on the most hits on a google search.
Don't waste my time. You don't have a clue.
*The above is from the muslim website: http://www.muhammadanism.org/
No, I'm saying it isn't as bad as the ignorant claim. All religious law is bad because it is based on ancient texts that don't evolve with society. Women being equal is a fairly new concept, so don't be surprised when total equality is not represented in the old religions.
However, the Quran was a big improvement over the status of women at the time. Even if he wanted to, I don't think Mohammed could have done much more and still have his religion be accepted. As it was there was an outcry over the limit on wives and the prohibition of capricious divorce, leaving the women out in the cold.
You've provided NO PROOF. While I cite texts and back up all I have stated, you submit....nothing.
Actually, you haven't submitted anything in the Quran stating that a woman can't initiate divorce.
Hmm, if a muslim rejects hadith antiRepub, it would make him a heretic, a blasphemer, and earn him a death sentence.
According to the Muslims who do accept them for their various reasons. A majority of Christians don't accept Catholic canon, and long ago they would have been labeled as heretics, subject to death. Does that make them wrong?
No, absolutely false...islamic law in NOT based on the whims of individuals.
Then why does it vary so much from place to place?
Ha! Is that what you think Khul' or haqq-i-faskh means?
Even your beloved Hadith recognizes them.