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Hacker underground erupts in virtual turf wars
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 22 August 2005 | Peter N. Spotts

Posted on 08/22/2005 10:47:38 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 08/22/2005 10:47:42 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 08/22/2005 10:48:01 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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A customer once asked me how best to protect their computer system from hackers. I recommended that they don't connect the machine to the internet, unplug it when they weren't using it, and never accept floppies or CD's from friends.

Then I offered to sell them a Mac. :-) They could keep their internet access, leave it on 24/7, and insert any floppies or CD's they wanted. (Except for those mini-cd's and credit card cd's... Those were never intended to work with slot loading drive mechanisms.)


3 posted on 08/22/2005 10:51:07 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: coconutt2000
Then I offered to sell them a Mac. :-)

That's quite a sales pitch. :)

4 posted on 08/22/2005 10:53:12 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: coconutt2000

Your first suggestion was right the second is false hope. Every system can be hacked..


5 posted on 08/22/2005 10:55:38 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: coconutt2000
Then I offered to sell them a Mac. :-) They could keep their internet access, leave it on 24/7, and insert any floppies or CD's they wanted.

Because, with a market share measured (when measured by online activity) that has even fallen behind Linux, hackers don't have time to crack on Macs, they're after biger game.

6 posted on 08/22/2005 10:58:28 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Does it hurt when they shear your wool off?)
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To: ShadowAce

According to the new Security Now podcast, the networks were infected by laptops connected to the network after they had been online at home or on the road. Once zotob got inside the corporate firewall, it was open season.

Shows how one poor security policy can wreck a network.


7 posted on 08/22/2005 11:01:00 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: tx_eggman

Every computer system can be hacked, but the Mac OS doesn't lend itself to unskilled, remote hacking.


8 posted on 08/22/2005 11:08:42 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: N3WBI3

Every computer system can be hacked, but the Mac OS doesn't lend itself to unskilled, remote hacking.


9 posted on 08/22/2005 11:09:13 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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I recommended that they don't connect the machine to the internet, unplug it when they weren't using it

Hacking through a power cord????

10 posted on 08/22/2005 11:12:02 AM PDT by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: ShadowAce

Boy will be boys. Security is slowly getting better, but as long as we have MS Windows platform as our OS there will be attacks. If you want "almost" attack free computer, switch to Linux/Unix/Mac.


11 posted on 08/22/2005 11:12:24 AM PDT by devane617
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To: chudogg

Hardly, no. But unplugged it was unlikely that someone could sit down and access their machine in person, without first knowing that the machine was unplugged.

In my experience, when people don't expect a computer to be unplugged, they don't normally check the power cord.


12 posted on 08/22/2005 11:16:06 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: coconutt2000

I'll take your word on that one, but i would think password protecting your computer would be much better alternative, even if that could be bypassed, than simply unplugging it.


13 posted on 08/22/2005 11:38:00 AM PDT by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: coconutt2000

When properly configured..


14 posted on 08/22/2005 12:12:54 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: MediaMole

We had ztob get inside our trusted zone by latching itself to a laptop being used by some part-time oldtimer who never heard of a firewall. I could kill the person who gave him the IP address but that's neither here nor there. When I checked the 2000 servers, they were asking permssion for mousebm to access the internet. Mousebm appeared in regedit as a legacy mouse app. Why would a legacy mouse app want to access the internet? I refused permission, deleted the file, rebooted and it came right back. That spells worm in my dictionary. I deleted it and replaced it with a text file with the same name which I made read-only and hidden. That kept it at bay until the virus detectors could catch it.


15 posted on 08/22/2005 12:18:27 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: tx_eggman
Because, with a market share measured (when measured by online activity) that has even fallen behind Linux, hackers don't have time to crack on Macs, they're after biger game.

Frankly, I don't care why Macs aren't attacked because they aren't. I'd rather be part of the 3% that uses Macs than the 95% or so that uses Windows and has to run a collection of extra software to keep their machine from being taken over every time it's plugged into the Internet.

16 posted on 08/22/2005 12:58:56 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions (`)
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I'd rather be part of the 3% that uses Macs than the 95% or so that uses Windows and has to run a collection of extra software to keep their machine from being taken over every time it's plugged into the Internet.

Whatever floats your boat ..

17 posted on 08/22/2005 1:09:28 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Does it hurt when they shear your wool off?)
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Whatever floats your boat ..

Exactly. What I really want is choice. If, out of the available choices, you choose Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, Free BSD, or whatever, that's fine. That we have a choice is important.

18 posted on 08/22/2005 1:21:01 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions (`)
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To: Question_Assumptions
That we have a choice is important.

Mr. Gates might not agree but, given that his corporation introduces more bugs than Fear Factor, he keeps the competition in business.

I hope I live long enough to see the competition do to Microsoft what Microsoft did to the IBM mainframe business. Being in BIG corporate IT I don't have a choice of OS's right now.

19 posted on 08/22/2005 1:35:45 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Does it hurt when they shear your wool off?)
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ping


20 posted on 08/22/2005 6:35:16 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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