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To: vbmoneyspender
But for Watergate, there probably would still be a South Vietnam

Nah. Granted all the stuff about the press and the left's efforts to impede the war are true. But, realistically, the war was a doomed effort from the beginning for a number of reasons.I will not get into a long treatise on it. But I lived through that period & narrowly avoided the service and being there.

Let me just say this. My father (USMC) commanded a company in Korea and in 1963 was in Nam as an advisor, when our presence was basically just the Marines. He came home and said to me that we were getting into a war that we could not win and would become a huge mess (he said this for a variety of reasons). He knew what he was talking about. He was a true patriot and staunch conservative.

5 posted on 08/22/2005 8:28:27 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I don't know why you would say the Vietnamese War was a doomed effort. The war had basically been won by our side by 1973. At that point, the South Vietnamese were able to fight on their own without American ground troops supporting them and to defeat the NVA in stand-up battles. In fact, during the NVA's 1972 Easter Offensive, ARVN carried out a pretty decisive counterattack which recaptured almost all of the territory the NVA had grabbed in the initial offensive. In fact, the counteroffensive was so decisive and resulted in such losses for the NVA that the NVA wasn't able to carry out another attack for 3 years. When that next attack occurred however, ARVN collapsed because we had cutoff all of the supplies to the South Vietnamese which they needed in order to defend themselves against the Soviet and Chicom supplied North Vietnamese. So to say that South Vietnam was doomed from the get-go is just not accurate.


6 posted on 08/22/2005 8:40:02 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: ChildOfThe60s

What would he have said about Iraq?


7 posted on 08/22/2005 8:44:41 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (All your Diebold are belong to us!)
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