[Sterco]

Nope

[FBD]

TO ALL:

Below is a link to documents and speeches by our founders on immigration.
Our founders were very concerned that the quantity of immigrants should be kept low enough to encourage assimilation.

http://www.vindicatingthefounders.com/library/index.asp?category=7

We are seeing that problem with the new immigrants (legal and illegal) from Mexico.


Here is the link to Thomas Jefferson's 1787 "Notes on the State of Virginia"
RE: The number of its inhabitants?

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http://www.vindicatingthefounders.com/library/index.asp?document=37


[snip] "...Every species of government has its specific principles. Ours perhaps are more peculiar than those of any other in the universe. It is a composition of the freest principles of the English constitution, with others derived from natural right and natural reason.

To these nothing can be more opposed than the maxims of absolute monarchies. Yet, from such, we are to expect the greatest number of emigrants.

They will bring with them the principles of the governments they leave, imbibed in their early youth; or, if able to throw them off, it will be in exchange for an unbounded licentiousness, passing, as is usual, from one extreme to another.

It would be a miracle were they to stop precisely at the point of temperate liberty. These principles, with their language, they will transmit to their children.

In proportion to their numbers, they will share with us the legislation. They will infuse into it their spirit, warp and bias its direction, and render it a heterogeneous, incoherent, distracted mass.

I may appeal to experience, during the present contest, for a verification of these conjectures. But, if they be not certain in event, are they not possible, are they not probable?

Is it not safer to wait with patience 27 years and three months longer, for the attainment of any degree of population desired, or expected? May not our government be more homogeneous, more peaceable, more durable?

Suppose 20 millions of republican Americans thrown all of a sudden into France, what would be the condition of that kingdom? If it would be more turbulent, less happy, less strong, we may believe that the addition of half a million of foreigners to our present numbers would produce a similar effect here..." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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[DTogo]

Build this first to stop the flow, deport all those here ILLEGALLY, punish/fine those who were hiring them, and put those with continued job prospects on a fast-track guest worker visa system ($1K/visa) with biometric screening and ID cards.

[Logical me]

What bothers me is the "low wage jobs". Maybe we should be looking in why in the richest Country in the world still have low wage jobs. I know, I've heard all the crap about why, but ask yourself if is reasonable to ask a person to work for wages that cannot support even the basic necessities of life. When Social Security and the various benefits one can get from each State is more that the wage on some jobs, makes most intelligent persons wonder where we have been, asleep?

[TXBSAFH]

Deploying troops to the southern border would be a better idea.

[cartman90210]

Good morning, rod.

Hey, have you found out how this stuff actually affects the hardworking immigrants since you wrote this post? Or are they still not important enough for you to lose sleep over?

[longtermmemmory]

I think we should not be so quick to say no IF (and this is a big IF) we can link it to REAL border security.

IE building an israel style fence along the all the borders for expanding the current temp worker program.

We can ensure the guest worker visas are NONconvertable.

Since we are having a discussion about immigration then lets have a DISUSSION!

Turn the tables so to speak.