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To: pawdoggie; All

Sorry, you have set up a straw man. Looks like a lot of folks have fallen for the same thing, though. Not because you set it up...they fell for it independently of you. Islamofascist rule is not what is being haggled over for the Constitution. That is, unless country's like Turkey are also ruled by Islamofascists?

I have read and heard that this is a typical arrangement in Islamic countries...ie...where Islam is the majority religion. Islamic law is said to be the primary source of their laws. But in practice, it is not usually administered in such a severe fashion as in Iran or as under the Taliban in Afghanistan.

The true radicalism you fear is not to be found in this approach, but rather in countries like Iran where radical Islamic clerics rule the country. Literally, rule by clerics is the definition of such a to-be-feared Islamic state. Our side in Iraq has in no way signed off on such an Iranian/Taliban like state.

Learn it or leave it (this topic), please. You are just adding to the confusion that is already rampant on the subject.


22 posted on 08/22/2005 5:46:05 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: txrangerette

"You are just adding to the confusion that is already rampant on the subject."

My goal is to clear up the confusion. You wish that I just blindly accept what we are doing?


26 posted on 08/22/2005 5:51:27 AM PDT by thorlock
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To: txrangerette

When the U.S. constitution was written up slavery was legal and women did not have the right to vote. On those two counts the Iraqi constitution is already ahead of the game. Personally I'm not at all worried about Islamic law (ala the Taliban or the Ayatallahs) being written into the constitution - no way that is going to happen in my opinion. If their constitution guarantees basic human rights, fair trials, the right to vote for all citizens, it will be far ahead of what pretty much any other ME country (other than Israel) has in spite of imperfections.


32 posted on 08/22/2005 6:05:03 AM PDT by Avenger
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To: txrangerette
.....several of the countries with the largest Muslim populations, including Indonesia, Bangladesh and India, have largely secular constitutions and laws, with only a few Islamic provisions in family law. Turkey has a constitution that is strongly secular.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

ARTICLE 2 . The Republic of Turkey is a democratic, secular and social state governed by the rule of law; bearing in mind the concepts of public peace, national solidarity and justice; respecting human rights; loyal to the nationalism of Atatürk, and based on the fundamental tenets set forth in the Preamble.

From the Preamble:

The recognition that no protection shall be accorded to an activity contrary to Turkish national interests, the principle of the indivisibility of the existence of Turkey with its state and territory, Turkish historical and moral values or the nationalism, principles, reforms and modernism of Atatürk and that, as required by the principle of secularism, there shall be no interference whatsoever by sacred religious feelings in state affairs and politics; the acknowledgment that it is the birthright of every Turkish citizen to lead an honourable life and to develop his or her material and spiritual assets under the aegis of national culture, civilization and the rule of law, through the exercise of the fundamental rights and freedoms set forth in this Constitution in conformity with the requirements of equality and social justice;
http://www.hri.org/docs/turkey/preamble.html
95 posted on 08/22/2005 8:30:17 AM PDT by Marli
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