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To: Kevin OMalley

I only have time to hit a couple of points here.

First and most important I mean nothing derogatory when I say you seem not to have enough background. There's no reason at all why you should. The only circuits I do are small electric appliances with easily accessible screws.

It's just that it's easier to have a shorthand conversation with someone who can pick up on the bits without needing backgrounding. The subject is actually not as easy as it is made out to be.

My other point is that in a science class the student is there to learn what the scientists think.

Disagreement is fine, but in exams or in labs there is always...always the unspoken "What we currently believe" as part of the question.

But all the best research comes from questioning the current. Secondary research comes from expanding it a bit.

No more responses until much later or tomorrow.


313 posted on 08/24/2005 2:44:54 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: From many - one.

It's just that it's easier to have a shorthand conversation with someone who can pick up on the bits without needing backgrounding.
***A very good point indeed. My suggestion to all, creats & abiogs & evos is to have one page where you post articles that everyone agrees are even handed and bring one up to speed on the debate. Patrick Henry's home page is very interesting, but it is a bit overwhelming. One thing to keep in mind, also, is that PatrickHenry might lose his posting privileges and then all that work goes down the drain. A beginner's FAQ that everyone acknowledges would be a good idea -- it would save everyone a lot of time.

The subject is actually not as easy as it is made out to be.
***And hereby you reinforce a point that I made earlier. Origins belongs in a 2nd year bio regimen due to its advanced nature (of course I think it should be a philosophy class, but that's just wandering off on a tangent).

My other point is that in a science class the student is there to learn what the scientists think.
***This is kind of interesting. My impression was that one was there to learn facts first, and what scientists think might come later. I don't mind a philosophy professor telling me his philosophy, nor a poly sci professor telling me his political views. But I do mind a bio prof telling me his religious/philosophy views, and the bleedover that has been resulting where other profs take their cues and proceed from evo to lay in their pet philosophies.

Disagreement is fine, but in exams or in labs there is always...always the unspoken "What we currently believe" as part of the question.
***Hmmm, that's interesting also. In electrical engineering, folks are likely not to tell you what they currently believe because a research grant or paper might be at stake. I'm gonna have to chew on that one for awhile.

But all the best research comes from questioning the current.
***If you question evo in an anthropology department, your funding will likely dry up. I wonder if some good research is lost because of that.


317 posted on 08/24/2005 3:25:55 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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