Posted on 08/21/2005 8:38:27 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
A home invasion on Friday night left one man dead and police trying to determine his identity. It was around 1 a.m. when the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office received a call regarding a shooting in the 14200 block of Wildwood Drive in the Lake Wildwood subdivision.
According to Lt. Darrel Conn, with the MCSO detectives division, officers arrived to find a Hispanic male lying in the yard dead from an apparent gunshot wound.
Conn said the home is owned by an elderly man and his wife, who were home when the dead man allegedly decided to walk in. He said the homeowner told officers he was awake playing video games when an unknown male holding a beer bottle walked into the home through the front door. He is described as a Hispanic male, between 30 and 35.
The homeowner confronted the man and told him to get out of his house. Conn says the intruder went outside, but remained on the premises and went to the back yard. He says the homeowner then retrieved a revolver from inside the house before going outside to look around his property. When the elderly man discovered the intruder in the backyard, a struggle ensued and the intruder was shot at least once in the chest.
Conn says the dead man had only one piece of identification on his person, which does not appear to be his. There was no immediate way of determining his identity. The homeowner will not face charges.
I don't understand your post.
~ Blue Jays ~
Real simple, you got the wrong sub division. this happened in mongomery county, not harris. Read on, you will be enlightened.
Real simple, you got the wrong sub division. this happened in mongomery county, not harris. Read on, you will be enlightened.
Good shooting!
Yeah, and the perp may have lived to kill his next victim's family. No need to bother the cops when you can handle the situation yourself. That's half of what's going wrong with this country.
My elderly wife wouldn't be alone as I went outside. She would have her friends Mr. Remington (870) and Mr. Glock (her G26) with her.
My wife's purse gun is a wimpy Glock 26 in 9mm. But then, she's outshot me in our last two CHL qualification shoots. :-)
Thanks for the ping.
"...Consider this scenario. Let's say your grandmother (or grandfather) is home alone and an intruder walks into her house. She yells at him to leave and he goes back outside. Would you want Grandma to follow him into the dark of night, or would you advise her to lock the doors and windows, call 9-1-1, load her gun and stay inside? This really is a commonsense issue, personal safety issue..."
You are precisely correct. Once an intruder is outside the home, the immediate threat has been SIGNIFICANTLY reduced. If he attempts to regain entrance he'll need to smash glass windows or bust down a locked door...resulting in a hail of righteous gunfire from the armed grandmother.
As you have eloquently posted earlier, the idea of the drunkard escalating the situation by cutting telephone lines and setting fire to the residence are unlikely circumstances that would be handled when they arose. One is in a tactically superior position by:
Why an elderly man would abandon his wife and wander into the darkness without full knowledge of the strength, speed, number, and capability of the adversary is beyond comprehension. I don't have a problem with the fact that the jerk was ultimately shot during a struggle...but the homeowner certainly wasn't using all ADVANTAGES that were available to him.
~ Blue Jays ~
Excellent post, Blue Jays. I'm sure any self-defense instructor would be in complete agreement with your post. Hopefully people who have read this "thread" will learn something valuable that might save their life someday.
If you are referring to this particular story, then I highly doubt that the intruder, who was carrying nothing more lethal than a beer bottle, AND left the home when told to do so, was there to kill the family. I think he was simply drunk. If he had been there to do them harm, or rob them, he surely wouldn't have just walked out again.
I also do not think it is wise to encourage people to handle situations like this irrationally. That kind of thinking could get an innocent person killed. If you are for shooting into the dark, not knowing why or who the person is, then you are "half of what's going wrong with this country". No offense, just my opinion.
If your elderly wife knows how to handle her "friends", that is wonderful. Unfortunately there are many women who are not capable of handling a firearm. We do not know if this man's wife had a gun or not, or if she even knew how to use one. You are also making the assumption that while you are outside playing Rambo, your wife could be overtaken within the home with or without a gun.
I hope others who read this "thread" will realize that what this man did put himself and his wife in GREATER jeopardy. I am thankful that they were not injured, but it could just as easily gone the other way and we'd be reading their obituaries.
She does.
Unfortunately there are many women who are not capable of handling a firearm.
Not in rural Texas.
You are also making the assumption that while you are outside playing Rambo, your wife could be overtaken within the home with or without a gun.
I am NOT making that assumption. YOU are.
I hope others who read this "thread" will realize that what this man did put himself and his wife in GREATER jeopardy. I am thankful that they were not injured, but it could just as easily gone the other way and we'd be reading their obituaries.
I repeat, this is part of what is wrong with this country. What is this "call the police" for every bump in the night? There is no need to call the police until you've reached a situation you cannot resolve yourself. Yeeeesssshhhh, if you want to live a risk-free life, go live in a rubber room.
I suggest you do a google and look up Jeff Snyder's "A Nation of Cowards." You may find it interesting.
Calling the police in this type of situation isn't cowardice or being yellow-bellied...it's about maximizing opportunity for complete success. An elderly man "walking the walls beyond the fort" has put both himself and his innocent wife in a weaker position.
The homeowner had the leverage of:
As far as not calling the police for every "bump in the night" goes, there are many on this thread who have posted the guy might be part of some Mexican Special Forces team that was prepared to cut telephone and power lines, steal property, and set propane tanks on fire. Given that many feel the trespasser is so dangerous, wouldn't it be prudent for the elderly homeowner to contact the police IN ADDITION to taking his own precautions?
~ Blue Jays ~
I see I did make an error in my wording when I said, "You are also making the assumption..." Fact remains, that you would have no way of knowing where that perp went in the dark, and if he had friends around. The minute you leave the home, your wife is more vulnerable and you certainly would be as well.
I understand that you choose not to call the police. That's fine by me. I don't know where you got the impression that I was saying people should call the police "for every bump in the night". Good grief, that would be absurd. This entire thread developed due to a factual story with certain details as to how the situation developed.
I had to laugh at your sentence, "if you want to live a risk-free life, go live in a rubber room". I never said I wanted to live a risk-free life, and I never implied that that is even possible. Heck, I live in bush Alaska where we have no policemen who can come running "for every bump in the night". So I guess I chose not to live in a rubber room.
I know how to protect my home and family, and I also know that even Rambo wouldn't go shooting up his backyard in the dark because some drunk walked through the front door. LOL :)
Gosh, I wish I had said that. Another well thought out post, Blue Jays.
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