Posted on 08/21/2005 3:31:38 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
Hey Dalager!.....I'm not an immigrant! My ancestors were immigrants, and they knew it and acted accordingly....I AM NOT AN IMMIGRANT you marxist bastard. Are you an immigrant Dalager?....I want to see some documentation. Now!
FMCDH(BITS)
WTF is the problem here?
Sheesh. Y'all make me tired.
FMCDH(BITS)
I see you managed to slip out of the home again. Better let bayourod know where you are. You know how nervous he gets when you're out alone.
Am I to believe that President Bush allows illegals to swarm into our country to join the Army instead of recruiting citizens to defend our country? Sort of like mercinaries, (foreignors who get money and benefits to fight wars for other nations)?
Well here's my answer to your insulting question, in the form of more questions.
There are an estimated 20 million illegals in our country right now, and the overwhelming majority of our military men and women are American citizens. So just how many tens of millions of illegal aliens does President Bush want here in order to chose from among them a few dozen or even a few hundred to join the Army?
Why do we need mercinaries anyway?
Isn't there enough patriotism in America to fight our own wars? If so, why not?
And finally, why would anybody want to trade off our "menial jobs" to millions of unknown illegals for a loss of national security during a war against terrorists who desire to infiltrate our country, unknown, to destroy us?
I'm sorry, you missed my point. I'll try again. Hey, I'm grasping at straws because like you, I don't understand the presidents motives. If the jobs are being taken by illegal aliens, perhaps more US citizens are joining the service because they can't get jobs. Do you think that could be possible or could be an effect of massive illegal immigration and employment of them by so many businesses?
"It has nothing to do with race, ethnicity or country of origin" but everything to do with the problems that stem from it, Tancredo said.Those include economic, employment and labor issues as well as crime rates, to name a few, he said.
He said illegal immigration wouldn't be such a big problem if the federal government would enforce the law.
Were they illegal? Were they all admitted?
Be honest, your position is to reduce American labor to the level of cheap commodity, your understanding of human worth (whether they were "worthless") is based on the free market. You want to lower the worth/price of labor to the lowest possible level.
You think that the purpose of society is to maximize the profit/wealth of the upper class. The good standard of living for the lower classes is a waste in your eyes. You are engaged in a class warfare.
And I suspect that you are not rich, you just dream about being one.
Whew paging karl marx.
Actually Mr. neo-stalinist, the purpose of society is to maximize the profit/wealth of all people, not engage in class warfare that you are so fond of.
OK, Mr. Freemaketeer, explain me one thing.
This "profit/wealth of all people" does it include high labor costs or high wages? I mean do you see the workers wages as being on the side of costs/expenses or on the side of gain/profit/wealth?
false dichotomy
I agree. The problem, though, is not illegal immigration -- it's the free schools, free health care, subsidized housing, etc. This country could solve much of the illegal immigration problem simply by getting rid of these things.
I agree with what you say because immigration has turned from immigration into an existing polity into colonization. The ethnic hustlers who claim to speak for "their" people are pretty insistent that it is they who are superior and America is nothing but an economic zone that could not survive without their involvement. And we have the globalists (basically white liberals and their righist co-horts) trying to swindle us with myth making and outright duplicity. But hey it pays them well eg; WSJ.
Betcha they profit from it too.
This "profit/wealth of all people" does it include high labor costs or high wages? I mean do you see the workers wages as being on the side of costs/expenses or on the side of gain/profit/wealth?
Well gee Mr. neo-stalinist(BTW, nice of you to ping your fellow bolshiviks), there isn't a set number of pies where people are fighting over pieces.
In actuality, every human being has the ability to make more pies, but you as a self-deemeed and proclaimed pie maker don't like the competition, thus with populist class warfare rhtoric try to inhibit the making of new pies, that will benefit everyone.
Explain, please.
Let us see how they will appreciate your remark :)
Exchanging labor for wages is one way to create wealth, although in most cases not as quickly as their employer. So it incorrect to say that there is choice between supporting workers or supporting wealth-creators.
Let me guess - you majored in PE.
I am not a fellow boltchevic, but I find Mr Pole's comments insightful. However in this case you are right and he is zero sum.
Its a fact an limitless supply of third world labor into a first world economy will suppress wages. If I do not employ illegals, and I'm not an illegal myself, how do I benefit?
If your answer includes lower prices, then you'll have to explain why we've experienced 2.5 to 3.5 percent inflation over the past 10 years.
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