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Lt. Col. Shaffer: Able Danger Docs Disappeared
NewsMax ^ | 8/21/05 | NewsMax

Posted on 08/21/2005 2:52:23 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: oceanview
Berger stole from the archives, I see no evidence in this article indicating these documents are missing from the archives.
 
No, there is no evidence they were in the archives, but if according to Chaffer he delivered them to the 9/11 commission, they then could have ended up in the archives.
 
Hmmmm, then Unca Sandy is sent to take "notes" for his recollection before testifying and........hokus pokus, ala kazam!
 
I would suggest that Chaffer try and identify parts of what he sent to the commission to see if any of it can be found. After all the commission is saying they recollect nothing that identified Atta specifically in what he delivered. If he finds some of it in the archives then my scenario is not that far fetched.

281 posted on 08/23/2005 9:09:31 PM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (I can't use the cell phone in the car. I have to keep my hands free for making obscene gestures)
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To: sheik yerbouty
The papers went the way of the records in Vince Foster's office..
 
Ya mean Hillery has 'em?..........LOL 

282 posted on 08/23/2005 9:15:35 PM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (I can't use the cell phone in the car. I have to keep my hands free for making obscene gestures)
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To: Allosaurs_r_us

she has been hiding them in old crusty!


283 posted on 08/23/2005 9:19:57 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Kaslin

... my sentiments exactly!


284 posted on 08/23/2005 9:22:16 PM PDT by Barney59 (I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it.)
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To: Prime Choice
That's just the thing. It isn't possible. Whenever something is removed, trace indications are consistently left that it once existed and is now gone. This is true of classified documents, computer data, the works.

What do you mean? You think Able Danger never existed, or the Atta documentation never existed?

Anyway, it IS possible to erase data, both document and digital. Why do you say it isn't?

285 posted on 08/23/2005 9:24:58 PM PDT by servantoftheservant
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To: tennmountainman
Quite the contrary, Americans will demand an investigation.
It may now involve a criminal investigation, since documents are missing. It reads as if Shaffer has enough documents to prove the existence of Able Danger.
 
I agree. It has already been established Able Danger existed and what they were doing. Just the fact it was omitted from the 9/11 commission's report should throw up a red flag! Americans are not as stupid as these BS artists think we are.
 
Why is it Able Danger is not mentioned at all in their report? It was there job to be thorough. This means we can use the report for so much toilet paper, as it is not thorough at all. It certainly appears they disregarded AD altogether after they realized it divulged a time frame that did not coincide with their earliest documentation of Atta. As soon as it looked like it was going to involve the previous administration it went down the memory hole. They never researched any farther at that point. Or if they did they figured it needed to "disappear" as it was too incriminating.

286 posted on 08/23/2005 9:40:49 PM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (I can't use the cell phone in the car. I have to keep my hands free for making obscene gestures)
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To: servantoftheservant
What do you mean? You think Able Danger never existed, or the Atta documentation never existed?

I mean there is no such thing as total erasure. Anyone who works in electronic media can tell you that.

Anyway, it IS possible to erase data, both document and digital. Why do you say it isn't?

Because part of my work entails reclaiming lost data that is intentionally destroyed. The field is called digital forensics. To get an idea of how it is possible to recover said data, please start out by reading Secure Deletion of Data from Magnetic and Solid-State Memory. That will give you the basics.

289 posted on 08/23/2005 11:27:14 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Allosaurs_r_us

for sure, the 9-11 commission would have disposed of the copies delivered to them. what I want to know is, where are the ones at DoD?


290 posted on 08/24/2005 6:54:51 PM PDT by oceanview
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