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1 posted on 08/20/2005 11:29:48 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

No design including the proponents of "intelligent design" can be called "intelligent".


2 posted on 08/20/2005 11:37:39 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: PatrickHenry

unnngh!


3 posted on 08/21/2005 12:09:11 AM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: neverdem
So when can we study intelligent design?

One does not study ID. One prays to it.

7 posted on 08/21/2005 1:34:31 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Recall Barbara Boxer)
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To: neverdem
we could have some fun in the classroom discussing the evidence and the proposed explanations

Precisely. Expose the debate for all, not just for the ivy-tower class.

Which is what both the President and Senator Frist have said.

8 posted on 08/21/2005 3:30:30 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: neverdem
It's time to bring on the "debate"..

Here's the challenge to Intelligent Design..

You've spent a great deal of effort telling us what Evolution "isn't".. i.e., criticizing the tenets of Evolution..
Now, step up to the plate..

What is the theory of Intelligent Design?
Not just "God did it"...
Show the full context..
Where life comes from..
Where the different life forms that exist today come from..
Show proof.. Show proof.. Show proof..

Be prepared to defend your "hypothesus"..

10 posted on 08/21/2005 4:18:59 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: neverdem

Sorry but I am sticking with the Flying Spaghetti monster.


11 posted on 08/21/2005 4:23:01 AM PDT by doodad
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To: neverdem

"If we could all lighten up a bit perhaps, we could have some fun in the classroom discussing the evidence and the proposed explanations — just as we do at scientific conferences."


Ha ha ha ha ... I think there is a big joke in there. But, seeing Safire was willing to write a column about this in the NY Times ... well.... it appears to be great news, again.


12 posted on 08/21/2005 4:25:13 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: neverdem

Nice way to take a stand, there, Safire.


17 posted on 08/21/2005 5:45:36 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: neverdem
...its use of the adjective intelligent, which intrinsically refutes the longstanding accusation of anti-intellectualism...

Sort of like "special" and "exceptional" when applied to education.

Come to think of it, the predecessor to intelligent design was called "special creation".

23 posted on 08/21/2005 7:05:19 AM PDT by js1138 (Science has it all: the fun of being still, paying attention, writing down numbers...)
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To: neverdem
Don't have time for multiple threads, so here is a creation story as a placemarker.


Egyptian Creation Myth

Only the ocean existed at first. Then Ra (the sun) came out of an egg that appeared on the surface of the water. Ra brought forth four children, the gods Shu and Geb and the goddesses Tefnut and Nut. Shu and Tefnut became the atmosphere. They stood on Geb, who became the earth, and raised up Nut, who became the sky. Ra ruled over all. Geb and Nut later had two sons, Set and Osiris, and two daughters, Isis and Nephthys. Osiris succeeded Ra as king of the earth, helped by Isis, his sister-wife. Set, however, hated his brother and killed him. Isis then embalmed her husband's body with the help of the god Anubis, who thus became the god of embalming. The powerful charms of Isis resurrected Osiris, who became king of the netherworld, the land of the dead. Horus, who was the son of Osiris and Isis, later defeated Set in a great battle and became king of the earth.

31 posted on 08/21/2005 8:20:59 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Is this a good tagline?)
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To: neverdem

Intelligent Design in the person of the Watchmaker was brought into being in 1800.


59 posted on 08/21/2005 9:49:24 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: neverdem

Space aliens???


89 posted on 08/26/2005 12:07:23 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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