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Lessons From our Ancestors About the Countryside(Five Experts Ran a Welsh farm using 17th C methods)
BBC ^ | Friday, 19 August 2005 | Megan Lane

Posted on 08/20/2005 9:03:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: calex59
"Average life expectancy at birth for English people in the late 16th/early 17th centuries was just under 40 –39.7 years. However, this low figure was mostly due to the high rate of infant and child mortality – over 12% of all children born would die within their first year. A man or woman who reached the age of 30 could expect to live to 59. Life expectancy in New England was much higher, where the average man died in his mid-sixties and women lived on average to 62. This is still very low compared to the modern U.S., where a male child has a life expectancy of 73 and a female child, 79."

Found the above Googling, though I can't speak for its authenticity. I sometimes wonder about old life expectancy averages since there are some well known folks from those days who lived fairly long, Titian, Leonardo and Rembrandt among them.

161 posted on 08/22/2005 2:12:51 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Kind Sir, I truly believe that the Tankards need to commence
in anticipation of the mutton.


162 posted on 08/22/2005 4:26:15 AM PDT by doberville (Angels can fly when they take themselves lightly)
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To: danmar; All
I thought we are nuts, but it looks like the Brits are surpassing us. I wonder who is sponsoring this nonsense!

Sheesh... Didn't anyone read TFA? This was a group of archiologists/historians whatever, that left the comforts of their modern offices or classrooms, to get a real feel for life in the 17th century.

To learn and understand from a whole different perspective.

I find it interesting.

163 posted on 08/22/2005 4:55:41 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: Mamzelle
Get ahold of the Annotated Mother Goose, a very amusing and scholarly work. It shows through contemporary sources that the provenance of the "Ring a ring of roses" rhyme is much later than even the Great London Plague of 1665.

That book also notes that much of the "odd histories" of nursery rhymes stem from a single book written by what would have been called a tinfoil hat guy today, except it was a woman, IIRC some time in the late 19th century. She found arcane meanings, like King Charles's head, everywhere.

164 posted on 08/22/2005 5:47:33 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Marauder
Actually, this is just one example and there have been many, which state the exact opposite. But believe whatever you choose to...no skin off my nose.

There have been many shows on the Discovery and History channels, that say there was indeed cancer found in Egyptian mummies and GOOGLE lists more than a dozen pages of studies, some of which agree with your position, most of which agrees with mine, done by Eygptologist medical researchers.

165 posted on 08/22/2005 1:35:53 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Food was cooked over a hearth, in those days. You just kept the embers raked, every now and again, and whatever you were cooking, cooked slowly.


166 posted on 08/22/2005 1:43:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: chgomac
If you really want to use lavender, cut a large swath of it, making sure you keep the stems long, tie, hang the bunch, upside down, in a a cool dark space to dry, and then use in little potpourri pillows to sweeten linen closets.
167 posted on 08/22/2005 1:47:35 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: little jeremiah
You are correct. The image of people dropping dead from "old age" and common diseases (not the plague) in their forties is a misconception based on historical life expectancy figures, which are skewed by the high rates of infant and childhood mortality of older times.

Death from falls from horse back were common but at least the victims weren't turned into the pink pulp which an auto or motorcycle accident can cause and probably didn't number in the tens of thousands (I read once that one in four Frenchmen die in auto accidents - if you've ever driven in France you'll believe it).

On the other hand, ailments which we can now survive with anti-biotics such as infections and pneumonia, or which are rare because of much improved public hygiene such as typhoid and cholera did make survival much past "three score and ten" the exception. Now it's practically the rule.

168 posted on 08/22/2005 2:14:44 PM PDT by katana
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To: katana
Yep. And using human feces - "nightsoil" - as a fertilizer contributed to the problem, both in terms of direct food contamination and contamination of the water supply. I'm hoping our re-enactors passed on that little habit.

One real misery I would also not try to experience is an intractable dental problem. A feller with a toothache isn't altogether pleasant to be around. "What cannot be cured must be endured" has a whole new meaning when there isn't any aspirin.

169 posted on 08/22/2005 3:04:58 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill; katana
"What cannot be cured must be endured" has a whole new meaning when there isn't any aspirin.

Which would explain the popularity of laudanum.

But didn't people have the trick of boiling up and decocting extract of willow-bark (genus Salix) for its salicylates?

170 posted on 08/22/2005 11:44:05 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Keep posting all the old time pain remedies and the libertarian Freepers will start to take notes. Our ancestors were a helluva lot smarter (and higher) than they're generally given credit for.


171 posted on 08/23/2005 9:31:09 AM PDT by katana
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172 posted on 11/02/2005 10:12:50 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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