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To: betty boop; 2ndreconmarine; LeftCoastNeoCon
Thank you so much for your excellent essay-post! I'm praying for you a joyful and refreshing vacation, my dear sister in Christ!

I really don’t understand why so many multiverse theories have been advanced in recent times. Not one of them obviates the necessity of a beginning, of a First Cause.

So very true. It seems to me that the multi-universe theories are proposed because many cannot deal with the theological implications of a beginning of real time. The big bang/inflationary model substantiated the beginning of real time by the CMB measurements of the 1960's.

IOW, the only way science had to write God out of the picture was to appeal to infinity of chance. The plentitude argument requires that anything that could happen, did.

Since the beginning was so strongly established, the meaning had to be reduced by appealing to a multiplicity of prior universes or prior geometry (ekpyrotic or brane theories). IMHO, that is the main reason for multi-verse theories.

But despite all these efforts, there can be no infinity past because all prior universes require geometry as well. Even cyclic universes require geometry (the cyclic model of Steinhardt allows for infinity future but a beginning of real time). Likewise, the imaginary time model of Hawking posits a boundaryless universe, but nevertheless a beginning of real time.

A less theologically "motivated" group of theories involve Everett's multi-worlds (and the many subsequent theories based on his speculations, e.g. multi-histories and such). His was not focused on geometry, especially time, but rather on superposition, suggesting that Schrodinger’s cat is actually both alive and dead. The issue more correctly “goes to” the lack of a bridge in physics between the quantum and classic worlds. That problem remains.

The third type – the one which is the real “gotcha” that betty boop addresses here – is the cause of physical causality.

Virtually all cosmologies (except perhaps Tegmark) begin with a presupposition of pre-existing physical causality. That presumption biases the conclusion and is therefore a poison pill, IMHO.

The context of a beginning is a not merely a vacuum, it is a complete void, a true chaos: no geometry, no space, no time, no energy, no matter, no physical causality. Order cannot arise from such chaos in an unguided system. The obvious conclusion is that God exists.

485 posted on 08/27/2005 8:52:24 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Nice to see you active again. I like reading your posts.


486 posted on 08/27/2005 6:14:29 PM PDT by csense
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