I'll go you one better. We probably both concede that santa claus is an immaterial force. And yet, Santa Claus has a vast effect on the human universe, particularly amongst kids, that is, and has been, subject to scientific monitoring.
A thing need not have a material existence for science to be interested in it.
So, tell me, do think that, therefore, Santa Claus has been established by science to be a real thing, red suit, pot belly, raindeers and all?
The thing of it is, it's possible there's a multiverse, it's possible there's a Prime Mover God, and it's possible there's a santa claus. All these things are possible, but very few things are actually worth wasting science's sadly limited budget on.
"Is science not interested in a material force external to this universe that creates this material universe and leaves evidence of such creation?
I'll go you one better. We probably both concede that santa claus is an immaterial force. And yet, Santa Claus has a vast effect on the human universe, particularly amongst kids, that is, and has been, subject to scientific monitoring.
A thing need not have a material existence for science to be interested in it.
So, tell me, do think that, therefore, Santa Claus has been established by science to be a real thing, red suit, pot belly, raindeers and all?
The thing of it is, it's possible there's a multiverse, it's possible there's a Prime Mover God, and it's possible there's a santa claus. All these things are possible, but very few things are actually worth wasting science's sadly limited budget on."
But you have entirely avoided my question by changing its meaning to something that I didn't ask. Please, PLEASE stop with that straw man game. Santa Clause doesn't leave evidence. I'm talking about evdidence IN THIS UNIVERSE, MATERIAL EVIDENCE of it being a creation. That, you must agree, is within science's sphere, yes?
And also - Santa Clause exists ONLY in this universe as an IDEA that has an effect. All of Santa's effects can be traced to this universe. It is a false analogy.