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Alaska's Road to Nowhere
NY Times ^ | August 20, 2005 | HEATHER LENDE

Posted on 08/20/2005 4:25:48 PM PDT by neverdem

YOU have probably already heard about the pile of cash going to Alaska from the federal transportation bill. There's about a quarter of a billion dollars for a bridge to connect the airport on Gravina Island to Ketchikan (population 14,000). The bridge will rival the Golden Gate and Brooklyn Bridges in length and height.

Then there's $230 million or so for "Don Young's Way," a bridge between Anchorage and a swampy, undeveloped port, which is named for the man who got us the money, Alaska's lone congressman.

But it's the $15 million designated for a road between Juneau and Skagway that is dearest to me. Haines, the small town I live in, is close to Skagway - separated from it only by the waters of the upper Lynn Canal, which is not a canal at all, but the longest fjord in North America. The transportation money will go toward the first road ever to be built along the canal. Actually, the project will cost about $300 million to complete, but Gov. Frank Murkowski assures Alaskans that he'll get whatever he needs from the federal government.

The communities directly affected - Haines (population 2,400), Skagway (population 870) and Juneau (population 31,000) - have voiced opposition to the road for a host of good reasons: it is a waste of money; with at least two dozen avalanche chutes, it will be too dangerous to drive in winter, which is most of the year; we already have a fine ferry system that gets us just about everywhere we need to go in all kinds of weather; some places are too nice to be paved over.

Oh, and did I mention that the road won't fulfill its ostensible mission? The whole purpose of the new road was to connect Juneau to the Klondike Highway...

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: donyoung; frankmurkowski; murkowski; young
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To: Kozak
ALASKA has already paid the cost of this and other capital projects with the percentage of OIL royalties the Congress has stolen from the original pipeline deal.

It's OK for you to take "our" money?

"ALASKA isn't really a STATE, after all not enough people "up there" to count." Right?

Does your STATE get Federal Highway MONEY?

Oh yeah, some STATES are more equal than other STATES?

Right?
121 posted on 08/21/2005 2:38:20 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound ( Hey Heather the Point MacKenzie bridge is part of the port plan, idiot, thus "undeveloped" idiot)
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To: Kozak

Male Bovine Excrement.


122 posted on 08/21/2005 2:42:42 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound ( It's OK for the FEDS to steal OIL pipeline ROYALTIES? A deal's a deal unless it's with Congress)
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To: HostileTerritory

You have no idea how the OIL patch works do you?


123 posted on 08/21/2005 2:45:54 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound ( BTW there are several working rigs in Cook Inlet and many producing wells)
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To: youthgonewild

You are on BAD drugs.

Even the hippies in ALASKA are "right wingers".


124 posted on 08/21/2005 2:50:28 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (wannabe Cheechako blather blather blather)
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To: porkchops 4 mahound
Hey F U buddy...

I don't know who you are calling a "heather" - not even sure what that backwoods vernacular means, but I don't like it!

Look... AK ain't ANY different then the lower 48 - We OWN you just as much as we own Arkansas. Get over it mountain-man.

125 posted on 08/21/2005 3:19:25 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: bikepacker67; porkchops 4 mahound
porkchops is correct.

Heather is the author of the article, BTW.

126 posted on 08/21/2005 3:43:56 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: bikepacker67
Read the article genius, it was written by Heather Lende.

But, not to worry, it was directed at her kindred souls also.

You don't have prove your absolute ignorance of ALASKA to me.

You are confused perhaps by "wannabe Cheechacko"?
127 posted on 08/21/2005 3:49:22 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound ("backwoods vernacular"is kinda metro-sexual, in a "Dueling Banjos" sort of way don't cha think?)
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To: HostileTerritory

Yeah my town of 20k in Wisconsin would love a nice big juicy bridge project with 250 mil of federal pork. We could run it across lake Winnebago.

I'm disgusted that alledged conservatives here think a hog fest is OK as long as they get the slops. This is why despite our control of congress the spending just gets worse.


128 posted on 08/21/2005 4:30:55 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: porkchops 4 mahound
Once again.. FU Porkman.

No one needs your "I'm An Alaskan" holier than thou crappola.

You're part of the Union buddy, and if you don't like it, the rest of us will kick your azz into compliance like we did in 1861-1865

129 posted on 08/21/2005 4:31:43 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: Kozak
Yeah my town of 20k in Wisconsin would love a nice big juicy bridge project with 250 mil of federal pork.

Is your area ready to cough up the remain 3/4 of the project's cost? That is what we will be doing for the Knik Arm.

130 posted on 08/21/2005 5:45:55 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: bikepacker67

Hey Moron, all we are asking for is to be treated as one of 50 UNITED STATES.

If you are too stupid to understand the geographical uniqueness and realities of ALASKA that's your problem, not mine.

You really do make my point.

Turns out talk is cheap in the summer. You wouldn't last a month of winter.


131 posted on 08/21/2005 6:39:23 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (U don't even rate as a wannabe Cheechacko)
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To: bikepacker67

PS; No thanks bubba, you don't pass the physical.


132 posted on 08/21/2005 6:41:50 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (This ALASKA not Castro St.)
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To: cynicom
Ingrates. Cede Alaska back to Russia.

You read one article written by one person, and you're ready to give Alaska back to Russia? I do believe I'll throw a cyber-snowball at you and rub your face in the snow. LOL

133 posted on 08/21/2005 6:47:26 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

"Sewer Service"? BWWAAAAHAAAAAAAAA Sorry, that just cracked me up. If you choose to live in Juneau, Anchorage or Fairbanks you can prolly get sewer service. But the rest of Alaskans either put in a crib or some other septic system. Have to drill your own well too unless you live in the city.


134 posted on 08/21/2005 6:50:56 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: Kozak

Last time I checked, Alaskans pay federal income tax along with the rest of the Lower 48. (sarcasm) Do you realize how many of the fancy, "just gotta have", projects us Alaskans are paying for that are demanded by those in the Lower 48? We do not have that many folks living up here but you all down there sure love to come on up here and use our roads by the hundreds and hundreds of thousands. We have to fix up the wear and tear on the roads caused by the tourists. I'm not complaining, just pointing out that your comment is rather self-righteous and ignorant.


135 posted on 08/21/2005 6:56:10 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: Kozak

Your have accused Alaska of being a "leech", which would also imply that Alaskans are leeches. That's not only stupid, it's an ignorant insult. Hey, you want to open up ANWAR? Want some oil? Want to come up here as a tourist or for a hunt? I welcome everyone, except YOU. Alaskans have got to be the most self-sufficient people in the U.S.


136 posted on 08/21/2005 7:03:11 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: porkchops 4 mahound

Way to go!! :)


137 posted on 08/21/2005 7:04:37 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: Chena
,i>Last time I checked, Alaskans pay federal income tax along with the rest of the Lower 48.

Yeah, and last time I checked you get back 1.89 for every dollar in federal tax you pay. Fact. Guess where that comes from. Hint, it's not the tooth fairy.
138 posted on 08/21/2005 7:05:44 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: porkchops 4 mahound
Even the hippies in ALASKA are "right wingers".

Guess I'm not the only one that has noticed that. I have yet to meet a Democrat or one of those idiotic looney Liberals. Only ones I know all live Outside. I'm sure we have some of them though, because some of the sick and demented have decided to come on up to Alaska. But they are woosies....most of them move to the city. They wouldn't last two minutes anywhere else in Alaska because they would have enough federal programs. Our definition of "subsistence" isn't their definition of "subsistence". They get theirs from the Gubment. We get ours from the land. (ps: they really do hate that)

139 posted on 08/21/2005 7:07:58 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: Chena
Alaskans have got to be the most self-sufficient people in the U.S.

Sure you are. As long as you get a nice steady stream of federal pork. Tell you what, keep all your tax dollars, and we'll just call it even. of course that will leave you with about HALF the money you get now.
140 posted on 08/21/2005 7:08:55 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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