'Al-Qaeda Brought The Matches'

Captains Quarters ^ | 8/20/05 | Captains Quarters Blog

[ASA Vet]

My pen rai krup.

[FOXFANVOX]

"Seeing [perhaps arguing over] the trees and ignoring the forest", that is the image that comes to mind.

I think Bill [WJC] liked to build walls so he could have sex behind them. So sad to think that people thought he was a good president simply because of the accident of a good economy [which was improving when he inherited it]. He and his administration did enormous harm to the military and to the security of this country and, lest we forget, he brought dishonor to himself and to the office of President.

[Molly Pitcher]

Very helpful.. Thanks you 2.

Well I once had Top Secret clearance...worked for the Army PMO in Seoul. Does that count??!! LOL!

[txhurl]

bttt

[Not gonna take it anymore]

The bureaucracy is such that no matter how high or low the wall was, I don't think we would have prevented 9/11. If we take a look at our agencies today, right now, have we really improved? I think the answer is yes. And that is because we are actually arresting and looking for terrorist ties among those who reside in our neighborhoods.
But that will only go on for so long. Until the next time we all fall asleep into our apathy. You can see it starting now. The only reason the Patriot Act had a chance in Congress this year was because of the attacks in England. No one wants to be on the wrong side of the issue if another attack occurs here in the US.
But until those attacks all the screaming was about the loss of civil liberties because of the Patriot Act. Does that even make sense? The FBI has more options to go after mobsters than after terrorists?
This article by Debbie Schlussel makes a lot of sense to me but I've only posted part of it.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2005/08/fbi_would_have.html

FBI Would Have Ignored Able Danger Warnings


By Debbie Schlussel

Many people have e-mailed asking for my opinion on the emerging Operation Able Danger story--in which army intelligence personnel were barred from notifying the FBI about Mohammed Atta.

While I agree that the Pentagon lawyers who stopped the Able Danger operatives from notifying the FBI are culpable, and their behavior is an outrage, my take is different from most conservative commentators.

I really don't think the FBI would have acted on the information. Instead, today, we'd be sweeping under the rug yet more ineptitude by the, unfortunately, "lead agency" in the War on Terror.

Let's look at what the FBI has done with other similar information they received before and, even worse, AFTER 9/11. Let's look at what the agency and its sleazy allies have done to harm brave men who did what the Able Danger men did not--men like FBI Special Agent Robert Wright, who warned the FBI to do something about the Al-Qaeda funding network.

Here's the FBI record:


* Warnings about 9/11 hijackers Khalid Al-Midhar and Nawaf Al-Hazmi living in San Diego and behaving suspiciously according to their informant landlord. (Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer of Able Danger said his group had info on Al-Midhar and Al-Hazmi, too.)

THE FBI DID . . . NOTHING.

* Warnings by FBI Special Agent Wright about an extensive Al-Qaeda funding network in the U.S. (tied to HAMAS funding network). Wright told his FBI superiors that if something wasn't done to stop them, more people would die. More people did die. Still . . .

THE FBI DID . . . NOTHING. THEN, THE FBI FIRED BOB WRIGHT. (It was Customs, now ICE, that fortunately acted on Wright's info.)

* Warnings by FBI investigators about a man named Zaccarias Moussaoui who wanted to learn how to steer planes but not how to take off or land. Warnings by Canadian and French intelligence that Moussaoui was a terrorist who'd trained in Qaeda camps in Afghanistan. FBI agents, including counsel Coleen Rowley, begged to search the hard drive in Moussaoui's computer.

THE FBI DID . . . NOTHING.

The article continues at the link.

[pinz-n-needlez]

Thanks for the link over to here, Enchante. It paints a better picture in my brain.

I really did skip over most Clinton related stories until after the last election. And I'm pretty irritated that 'those people' have inserted themselves into our lives again and again.

I won't be surprised if we find out in another few years that Clinton didn't really do much president-work day-to-day, but instead goofed off while Hillary and her army of lawyer buddies just tied everything into silly knots.

Remember her Health care plan? I wonder how many departments she organized in a similar fashion behind closed doors...

Pinz

[Grampa Dave]

Walling and Head Bashing has been going on for at least 4 decades.

ASA Vet has posted about how certain Army leaders in Nam refused to believe early warnings about the Tet offensive. Then when it happened their units suffered heavy losses.