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MS-13 in Your Backyard(George Putnam Opines)
NewsMax.com ^ | Friday, Aug. 19, 2005 | George Putnam

Posted on 08/19/2005 4:17:19 PM PDT by kellynla

It is this reporter's opinion that while the nation focuses on terrorism, we have all but overlooked the issue of gang violence. Over the past fifty years in Los Angeles we have covered many of the homegrown gangs: the White Fence gang, Boyle Heights gang, the Bloods and the Crips, and others.

These were child's play compared with America's most dangerous gang: the Mara Salvatrucha 13 street gang (MS-13).

The gang was organized in Los Angeles in the late '80s and was named for La Mara, a street in San Salvador. Its primary purpose was to defend Salvadoran immigrants from being preyed upon by other L.A. street gangs. Gang members sometimes wear blue and white – colors taken from the flag of El Salvador. They also sport numerous body and facial tattoos.

MS-13 has expanded from California to Alaska, Oregon, Utah, Texas, Nevada, Oklahoma ... from New York to Los Angeles and Alaska to Florida. MS-13 has also been exported back to Central America. It is estimated there are 36,000 MS-13 members in Honduras alone.

They are vicious, they are violent, they murder, rob, rape and behead their victims.

MS-13 appears to be in control of much of the Mexican border. To sustain themselves financially, they smuggle people, drugs and guns across borders. They collect money from illegals. Where MS-13 goes, violence goes. They stop at nothing.

MS-13 is becoming everyone's problem. It is a plague that has come to Long Island from El Salvador by way of the streets of Los Angeles.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: gangs; guestkillerprogram; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; ms13; weweresoldout
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To: lentulusgracchus
I guess those that thought it funny a few years back, no longer see any humor here

Yeah, Texas is being over run. Most know that. I was actually referring to places like Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia, Idaho, Maine, Colorado......Places like that..They are now seeing it first hand, close up.

41 posted on 08/20/2005 9:20:29 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: lentulusgracchus
Thanks for the info. I'll just make it a point to stay out of those areas. I have full confidence that the FBI and local law enforcement officers will be able to soon wipe MS-13 out.

They don't have any local support from what I can see. Everyone detests them. They exist by fear alone, unlike other gangs and organized crime that had some degree of support within the community.

And if the Mexican cartels are now preventing them from getting their drugs across the border they won't even be able to threaten to kill local dealers who buy from other suppliers.

42 posted on 08/20/2005 9:48:37 AM PDT by bayourod (Blue collar foreign laborers create white collar jobs. If they come they will build it.)
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To: joesnuffy

Compassion is not a survival tool.


43 posted on 08/20/2005 10:02:34 AM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: bayourod
I'll just make it a point to stay out of those areas. I have full confidence that the FBI and local law enforcement officers will be able to soon wipe MS-13 out.

Excuse me for laughing but, you obviously don't follow current events. Routinely, people that are in the country illegally are found wandering around on our military bases. This has become the norm. And you know what? No one is being held responsible or accountable for these glaring breaches of security.

Just a month ago, 49 people were discovered wandering around a U.S. Air force base in North Carolina. And if this isn't alarming enough, no one was held responsible! And we are suppose to be at war??

You'd think this security outrage would go all the way to the White House. Yet it doesn't, and no one is held accountable.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel this could not be any more outrageous and alarming. Heads should roll. People should be fired, and or forced to resign , or be jailed, immediately. Having upwards of twenty million people in our country, with thousands pouring in illegally daily, is unacceptable. Period.

And no one is being held responsible! And you have confidence?

You can't be serious.

44 posted on 08/20/2005 10:10:12 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Black Tooth
"people that are in the country illegally are found wandering around on our military bases. "

So? I was raised on military bases. What's the problem with undocumented workers doing jobs on military bases?

Would you prefer to see our professional soldiers repairing the NCO club roof, or painting warehouses, or mowing the grounds, or black topping the roads?

That wouldn't be a very wise use of taxpayers' dollars. It wouldn't be a very efficient use of our military personnel, and it certainly wouldn't contribute to moral and reenlistment.

You must hate undocumented laborers more than you value our armed forces members.

45 posted on 08/20/2005 10:42:36 AM PDT by bayourod (Blue collar foreign laborers create white collar jobs. If they come they will build it.)
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To: bayourod
I have full confidence that the FBI and local law enforcement officers will be able to soon wipe MS-13 out.

Excuse me for laughing but, you obviously don't follow current events. Routinely, people that are in the country illegally are found wandering around on our military bases. This has become the norm. And you know what? No one is being held responsible or accountable for these glaring breaches of security.

Just a month ago, 49 people were discovered wandering around a U.S. Air force base in North Carolina. And if this isn't alarming enough, no one was held responsible! And we are suppose to be at war??

You'd think this security outrage would go all the way to the White House. Yet it doesn't, and no one is held accountable.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel this could not be any more outrageous and alarming. Heads should roll. People should be fired, and or forced to resign , or be jailed, immediately. Having upwards of twenty million people in our country, with thousands pouring in illegally daily, is unacceptable. Period.

And no one is being held responsible! And you have confidence?

You can't be serious.

So? I was raised on military bases. What's the problem with illegal aliens on military bases?

What a bizarre comment. Absolutely fascinating.

Look, I am not going to argue about this or even attempt to debate you. It would be ridicules and a waste of my time to do so. I just thought I'd memorialize this brief exchange.

46 posted on 08/20/2005 10:58:54 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Black Tooth; bayourod

Yeah, it never fails to amaze, does it? I'm so impressed that I've decided to dedicate my "about" page to "The Wit And Wisdom Of Bayourod" - this post will make a great way to get it started.


47 posted on 08/20/2005 7:41:00 PM PDT by cartman90210 ("Sorry kids, those people from the future will do the same job for 25 cents!")
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To: Black Tooth
I recall just a few years back, others thinking it was somehow funny that California seemed to be at the center of an invasion, that brought with it, gangs, drugs, crime and fraud and a lot of other unwanted things.

We were called racists and other nasty names for complaining about it. We were told that diversity was wonderful.

48 posted on 08/21/2005 12:40:40 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: kellynla

FYI a friend of mine who works a local emergency room states that the "hispanic" gangbangers have swithced from killing people with guns to running them over with cars (and you did not hear this in the media). So somebody call Sarah Brady and her cohorts and tell them of this switch.


49 posted on 08/21/2005 12:47:52 PM PDT by junta (Invade Mexico, aggressively neutralize its corrupt leadership and introduce civilization.)
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To: janetgreen

The rest of the back 40 seems to be catching up.


50 posted on 08/21/2005 6:27:34 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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