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To: r9etb
Seriously now, Bird. Can you respond rationally to any of the points I've made on this thread? For example: What do you propose to do about the Americans who are paying the illegals to cross the border? Do you really support the idea, as espoused by some on this thread, that it is permissible to commit crimes such as assault and murder against illegal aliens because they're "breaking the law by crossing the border?" Well?

If you mean those who hire illegals once they get here because they offer cheap labor, I would say the best way to reprimand those employers is to fine them heavily. Make it no longer profitable to employ illegals in the first place. If you're referring to some kind of organized network of Americans working with the Mexicans to transport them here like some sort of underground railroad, then I say lock 'em up and throw away the key. If such a network exists, then they're worse than the coyotes.

I understand that these illegals are coming here for a better life for their families, and I respect their desire to rise above their current station in life. What I don't respect is why they have to come here illegally, without going through the proper channels to become naturalized. They're doing it because they can get away with it, simple as that. I wouldn't get a driver's license, report to jury duty, or pay taxes if I could get away with it. That's why enforcement is important. An example must be made of those who don't follow the rules. Otherwise it's chaos.

I don't condone violence against these coyotes, but you must understand that a backlash is naturally going to occur when Americans feel their voices are not being heard and their interests are being superseded by the interests of illegals.

147 posted on 08/19/2005 12:06:01 PM PDT by Bird Jenkins
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To: Bird Jenkins
What I don't respect is why they have to come here illegally, without going through the proper channels to become naturalized. They're doing it because they can get away with it, simple as that. I wouldn't get a driver's license, report to jury duty, or pay taxes if I could get away with it. That's why enforcement is important. An example must be made of those who don't follow the rules. Otherwise it's chaos.

All true. And the reasons why they're getting away with it is because Americans not only let them get away with it, but actively encourage it. Do you seriously think these folks would otherwise be headed north in such large numbers? This is not a "Mexican" problem, it's an American one.

I don't condone violence against these coyotes, but you must understand that a backlash is naturally going to occur when Americans feel their voices are not being heard and their interests are being superseded by the interests of illegals.

If the backlash includes assault and murder, then the backlash should be stopped. Simple as that.

It's nice to see that you're capable of engaging in a rational conversation, and not just mindless name-calling. It might even interest you to know that we probably agree on the topic of illegal immigration more than we disagree (which I guess makes you a liberal-smelling RINO, too).

The problem with threads like this is that there are a lot of folks who are trying to fight this battle on the supply side, rather than the demand side. Getting control of the demand side is the real issue for me. I don't care to speculate on what's driving a lot of folks who are upset about the supply side of the issue.

152 posted on 08/19/2005 12:21:33 PM PDT by r9etb
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