[russesjunjee]

How much higher than a cashier or a waitress or a doorman or a stock boy can you shoot without an education?

There are plenty of people stuck in cashier level jobs, and they know themselves that they don't have what it takes to move up from there.

If you see someone working at a Wal-Mart cash register who is over the age of 30 they are likely there because they have to be, and if they could have gotten something better they would have.

Especially now, with all the manufacturing jobs getting outsourced to other countries more and more uneducated people are getting stuck with permanent, low paying jobs...like Wal-Mart cashier.

There was a time when the uneducated could still make some pretty big money working in manufacturing, but those days are gone. As NAFTA continues to squeeze our job market more and more Americans are going to get permanently relocated into crappy, low paying jobs.

That's why I don't get excited when the Bush administration brags about the low unemployment rate. People are employed alright...and making less than half of what they were.

[elfman2]

"How much higher than a cashier or a waitress or a doorman or a stock boy can you shoot without an education?"

I bet that you haven’t had to hire a plumber or electrician lately. And if they are good, and sober, they can be a boss making 6 figures before their kids hit college.

"That's why I don't get excited when the Bush administration brags about the low unemployment rate. People are employed alright...and making less than half of what they were. "

Would it change your mind if I showed you figures indicating that real median wages have been steadily rising?