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What If There Are No Adults?
AlbertMohler.Com ^ | Aug 19, 2005 | Albert Mohler

Posted on 08/19/2005 5:46:36 AM PDT by SLB

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To: Gefreiter
Perhaps a related observation is that there are very few men about these days. They're all "guys" or "dudes".

1) Men scare the hell out of feminists...and even real women who picked up some feminist thinking in college. A lot of "guys" become so because of cultural pressure to be non-threatening.

2) Embracing manhood is a big responsibility, and it takes work. Perpetual adolescence is a lot more fun - as long as your parents are willing to pay the bills.

3) Hollywood stopped holding up the Cary Grant types as role models a long time ago. Today we get Adam Sandler. ;)

41 posted on 08/19/2005 7:02:42 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Feelings are not a tool of cognition, therefore they are not a criterion of morality." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: thoughtomator

"They're waiting for their boomer parents to die so they can recoup whatever is left of what the boomers stole from them."

Huh?


42 posted on 08/19/2005 7:04:21 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Nowadays you are prohibited by law from starting to do most of that sort of work until you are 18 or older.

I remember working "illegally" in Ohio at age 17. You were supposed to have some sort of work permit papers from your parents, that I never bothered getting around to filling out. I rode the train the MS to Chicago by myself at age 8. Now US Airways has announced that "children" under 16 will not be alllowed to fly without and "adult". 15??? is not a child! I really hate the liberal politics and don't want to live with these people and their stupid rules anymore.

43 posted on 08/19/2005 7:06:31 AM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: TheForceOfOne
Notice that the television show sees medical therapy (McCoy's drug) as the solution to human irresponsibility. In this vision human irresponsibility is a medical condition, a disease, a virus, not something from within the heart.

A most profoundly Liberal sentiment.
44 posted on 08/19/2005 7:09:41 AM PDT by Iris7 ("A pig's gotta fly." - Porco Rosso)
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To: brownsfan

Let's put it this way... if the boomers grew up in the conditions their children grew up in, they'd be living with their parents in the nursing homes. Between the national debt, higher taxation, anti-marriage laws, outrageous housing and tuition costs, discriminatory laws, and the near-complete destruction of liberty, it should be no surprise that the boomers are the first American generation to manage to achive a reduced quality of life for their children.


45 posted on 08/19/2005 7:10:02 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Just call me Mr. Zero Diversity Points!)
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To: qam1

This is about people who refuse to grow up. Do you feel how well that shoe fits? No?


46 posted on 08/19/2005 7:13:54 AM PDT by Iris7 ("A pig's gotta fly." - Porco Rosso)
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To: Clock King; Smokin' Joe

My dad owned a small farm and a large farm implement business. I was employed and receiving a paycheck at 13 as dad believed in work and also payment for that work. My kids and even older friends of ours, are really surprised when I show them my social security statement that starts when I was 13.


47 posted on 08/19/2005 7:15:26 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: thoughtomator
A humorous statement, filled with resentment for others "who have caused all of (y)our problems". Having a little trouble with "authority figures", eh?

Marx felt the same way. He preferred the term "bourgeoisie" for his personification of outside authority, though.
48 posted on 08/19/2005 7:21:56 AM PDT by Iris7 ("A pig's gotta fly." - Porco Rosso)
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To: brownsfan
When people hear how I'm handling it, they look at me like I'm an abusive parent. I was strict with my kids, hardest on the first, (a textbook case).

You were NOT abusive, you were doing the right thing. If there is ever an example, look at Sam Walton (Wal-Mart) and how he handled his children and family. He and his wife live in the same little shotgun house he bought after WWII til he died. He was worth over $9 Billion then. Their kids got 0, none, nada help from dad as they entered adulthood. He made very very sure that they knew what it took to stand on their own as adults. I remember seeing a soundbite of his daughter, who was married and in her 20's at the time with one little baby saying, "Yeah, it's kinda strange when we (husband and her) need some of the plumbing fixed in the house and you know dad won't help." Dang straight. Dad knew you need to learn how solve problems like this on your own without running to him every time something breaks or goes wrong. Of course Sam did transfer his wealth before he died, but I think all of them learned their lessons. We won't see any Paris Hiltons or Nicole Ritchies.

49 posted on 08/19/2005 7:23:19 AM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: SLB

I think there’s more to this trend than the author’s thesis. Specifically, economic success.

Why strive so hard to pay the psychological price for adulthood if success through everlasting childhood is all but guaranteed? Isn’t this a virtual inevitability of success, that the population will find some kind of equilibrium between progress and self sacrifice? When the vast majority can drift through 12-16 years of school and a light career on into a nice home, family and leisure, I’d be surprised if most didn’t refuse to grow up.

I take it a step further and propose that most adult children know vaguely what they’re doing and seek out others that are doing the same - kind of an unspoken understanding.


50 posted on 08/19/2005 7:27:09 AM PDT by elfman2 (2 tacos short of a combination plate)
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To: SteveMcKing; All
I teach in a public high school. You people would never sleep again if you knew what I know about the future of America....according to what's passing through the doors of my classroom there is no future.

We can thank the liberal agenda for this. Liberals(commies) have gutted the public education system and destroyed any chance of learning.

Schools are now just huge social clubs where you go to decide if your gay or straight, buy or sell drugs, decide who you might like to kill because they have "offended you", look for someone to sue, or select a sex partner for the upcoming weekend.

Don't listen to Democrats or Republicans when they tell you that test scores have improved and things are looking great. They just keep watering down the test to make the scores appear inflated.

We regularly graduate seniors who have really bad attitudes and normal IQ's and can barely read or write. These seniors take their little tax payer funded lottery scholarships and go to local colleges where the curriculum has been watered down to make them feel comfortable. They then graduate and go out into society knowing absolutely nothing.

I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of dollars of tax payer's money gets poured into the un-education of one of these kids over the course of their school years?

But hey, it's all OK with the Government. The Democrats are happy because public schools are pumping out millions of kids who have been brainwashed to buy their liberal hogwash, and the Republicans are happy because stupid people are really easy to control...and both parties are ecstatic because they send their kids to elite private schools where they are taught how to enslave and control public education kids.

If you want your kids to have a chance in the world either home school them, get them into a good private school, or supplement them at home.

If they must go to public schools then pay very close attention to what is in their text books and to what they are being taught. They are bombarded with liberal propaganda on a daily basis. Deprogram them every day after school.

And what about all of those common sense loving, America respecting teachers that used to hold the line in public schools? Liberals identified us a problem along time ago and they have been very successfully forcing us out of the profession for ten years now. We have been sued, harassed, and badgered into quiting.

The new teachers that the colleges are pumping out are completely brainwashed and accepting of the liberal ideology that all other nations are good and America is bad. They believe that drugs are great, a abortion is fine, and homosexuality is just the coolest thing that has ever come down the pike. These liberal teachers will have almost complete control over the minds of our kids in the next ten years as the last of the conservatives retire or are forced out of the profession.

I know all of this sounds a little conspiracy theory, but I've been in public schools for 19 years, and I know how the game is played. Public ed is dead...the public just doesn't know it yet.
51 posted on 08/19/2005 7:27:34 AM PDT by russesjunjee (Shake the fog from your eyes sheople! Our country is swirling down the sewer!)
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To: Iris7

It's quantifiable in real numbers, and its effects fully saturate our culture. It can't be explained away as mere resentment.


52 posted on 08/19/2005 7:29:31 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Just call me Mr. Zero Diversity Points!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Good points.


53 posted on 08/19/2005 7:30:58 AM PDT by elfman2 (2 tacos short of a combination plate)
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To: thoughtomator
Ah, yes. The "bourgeosie" did it. "I've been screwed, and it is all your fault."

Plug in your own favorite object of resentment to replace "bourgeoisie".

So you fear a lowered "standard of living" and a curtailment of your own will, what you call "liberty"? "The Horror, the Horror". Gee, reminds me of the '60s and '70s.

Human nature never changes.
54 posted on 08/19/2005 7:31:19 AM PDT by Iris7 ("A pig's gotta fly." - Porco Rosso)
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To: russesjunjee
.according to what's passing through the doors of my classroom there is no future.

I knew this when I ran into more than a handful of kids working cash registers who can't count money. That skill is so basic to the very existence of any kind of society (even a tribalistic primative one), I don't see how we can have any future if large numbers of people can't count money.

55 posted on 08/19/2005 7:33:30 AM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: Iris7

It sounds like you're in major denial. What part of the concept of boomers stealing the resources of later generations doesn't compute for you? How much debt were you born with by virtue of being an American citizen? How many years' income did your education and your home cost you?


56 posted on 08/19/2005 7:35:14 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Just call me Mr. Zero Diversity Points!)
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To: russesjunjee
Thank God for the rain which has helped wash away the garbage and the trash off the sidewalks... All the animals come out at night. Whores, skunkp---ies, buggers, queens, fairies, dopers, junkies, sick, venal. Someday a real rain'll come and wash all this scum off the streets.

I pray for it.


57 posted on 08/19/2005 7:38:48 AM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Iris7

Actors = trained monkeys, the whole lot of 'um.


58 posted on 08/19/2005 7:42:08 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: brownsfan

"Society makes being a good parent very, very difficult."

So true! Sometimes you feel like you are rowing upstream against a very strong current! The Good Lord only blessed us with one child, but your experiences echo our own. I was a stay-at-home mom until our daughter was in school, and then I only worked parttime. We had a nice home, but not anything fancy. We had what we needed but never had money for a boat, RV, fancy vacation, etc. that our other friends seem to be able to afford. (Maybe they couldn't afford it -- maybe they were up to their eyeballs in debt.) When it came time for college, we helped out some, but our daughter worked and took out loans. She graduated a couple of years ago and now is repaying the loans. She is getting married in a few months, and she and her fiance are buying a house. They are coming up with the downpayment themselves. My daughter told me that they would never think of asking us for the money, that it was their responsibility. Makes me proud. We must have done something right!


59 posted on 08/19/2005 7:42:56 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Iris7
Please notice that I am describing original sin.

That is a very astute observation Iris. One of the best I've seen. I've often used a similar illustration using the word, "control". Every human being without exception desires control over every aspect of their world. Some use physical strength to gain control. Some use weakness, and some even use illness to keep control of others around them. I've seen cases of women who control their entire family by being "critically" ill all of their lives, until they die at the age of 95. And of course, as you say, they desire love without ever realizing that love is from God.

60 posted on 08/19/2005 7:45:42 AM PDT by WVNan
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