[mordo]

the plane was not trimmed out in level flight it was in climb out

okay okay.. I should have been more specific, acft trimmed for climbout,, which in fact would have some nose up trim dialed in during climb out. Your scenario says it cant happen not enough momentum or power. But all engines were operating and the acft had what 300knots plus or minus of airspeed and that is nothing?

Well we have a conflict here and it is not with me.

You people need to have at least a basic layperson understanding of these things.., well on the other hand I see now that assertion is proved wrong.

Mordo Out Really

[Wil H]

As a pilot, I do have a "basic understanding" and I don't buy the NTSB's story.