[SkyPilot]

Hard data? I doubt anything would convince you. I can tell by the tone of your posts you are very angry and hostile.

The bible says that when we accept Christ, we are a new person, and the Holy Spirit guides our life, convicts us of our sins, and is our counselor.

"And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us."

Romans 5:5

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"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has com."

2 Corinthians 5:17

Do Christians still sin? Absolutely, but are you proposing that members of evangelical churches who follow the bible and Christ are a greater percentage of murderers, rapists, and thieves that are goths and members of pagan cults? You are quite welcome to present me "hard data" proving that point junior.

You won't though--because you can't.

Your hostility towards God is apparent. You should realize that you (and I) will have to give Him an account someday. I urge you to examine Christ's teachings yourself, and determine whether or not they are true. That is your decision alone, no one can make it for you.

[Junior]

I'm not angry and hostile at all. I simply do not like people making unfounded accusations and then retreating into claiming anyone who questions them is "angry and hostile." And to top it off, you chant Bible verses as your version of sticking your fingers in your ears and repeating "lalalala." Now, either you have data to back up your accusations, or you are a liar.

I've run out of patience with the holier-than-thou crowd. Put up or shut up.

[Junior]

BTW, I'm not hostile toward God. He and I get along in a fairly reasonable fashion. I am hostile to folks who claim to talk for Him. There is a difference, but I don't figure you'll ever understand it, critical thinking not being one of your strong suits.

[Modernman]

Do Christians still sin? Absolutely, but are you proposing that members of evangelical churches who follow the bible and Christ are a greater percentage of murderers, rapists, and thieves that are goths and members of pagan cults?

No one has proposed any such thing. You are the only one proposing that a certain religious group is more likely to commit murder, rape etc.

The burden is on you to provide proof.