Posted on 08/19/2005 12:24:03 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate
Source is in german language.
Mounir al Motassadeq was one of the planners in Germany for the 9/11 attacks.
He was being (re)tried on 3000+ accounts of accesory to murder and membership in a terrorist organization.
The earlier sentence was tossed out on appeal and sent back for retrial. The germans were insisting upon having Binalshib & Co testify.
He has now been senetenced to SEVEN years, apparently based only on the membership in a terrorist organization.
The accesory charges were deemed unproven because the interrogations of Binalshib & Co MIGHT have been forced (torture).
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We'll see how long it takes for him to "escape".
The term "high court" definitely applies here.
Rummy needs to get our bases out of Germany NOW. This is what they think the lives of 3000 US civilians are worth...seven lousy years. They value the life of this one stinking terrorist more than 3000 innocent people.
Seven years, oh wow. Betcha he doesn't even get TV or nothin. Them Germans are really setting the bar.
Yes, I'm surprised they are going to do this to the poor fellow. Now, if he'd killed Germans that might be different, but just conspiring to murder Americans is no a crime.
Well, he might have gotten a higher sentence had the US authorities cooperated and handed over the testimony Binalshib made. Unfortunately that didn't happen and this is the result.
Your hysterical accusations against "them" (do you mean the German court or the German population? Eff you in case you meant the latter) are unfounded. Complain to the CIA if you want.
and the dirtbag man who knew he had AIDS and had sex with a 14-year old boy gets just 90 days probation.
Radical extremist Marxist judges are destroying America, thanks to ignorant Americans who vote RATs into office.
Yes, I'm surprised they are going to do this to the poor fellow. Now, if he'd killed Germans that might be different, but just conspiring to murder Americans is no a crime.The problem is that they couldn't prove that he was involved in 9/11 at all. He was convicted solely for membership in a terrorist organization. He got seven years for that. If I am not mistaken, this is not even a crime in the USA, so in the USA, he would have been acquitted instead.
Seven years for the membership in a terrorist organization. What's next: peace awards for that membership? Mr. Arafat is smiling in his grave.
They will do six month..then back on the dole.
EU dirty little secret... 70% of all muslims on the dole. Again no contribution to society in general. Takers is what I'm sayin.
Germany never has been very hard on mass murderers...
The interrogation protocols WERE handed over (not exactly testimony!!) including the caveat that it was to be considered suspect as they were trying to absolve thier "brothers" of responsibility (straight from the captured Handbook which the German Government has access to!)- furthermore - a large majority of it is still highly classified . . .
AND - the judges even questioned the validity of it as they could not determine whether force was used - alas - as was clear from the beginning of this "farce" - a terrorist will (again) walk. Just like his partner - AND the Syrian-German who can't be extradited to a member EU nation and can't be charged in Germany.
As stated earlier - the terrorists are sure to start avoiding Germany as a base of operations considering the harsh penalties that await them if caught.
It depends on where in Germany, but I wouldn't mind beng there for seven years :)
The trial wasn't a farce. The political will clearly was to get him behind bars as long as possible. When the US is asked for evidence and the CIA can't come over with more than something like "his pal said he had nothing to do with it but that might be a lie" I don't know what the judges could have done more.
I still think the US was counting on an acquittal and that Germany would deport him to Morocco where a CIA team would have snatched him and flown straight to Gitmo in one of that mysterious planes.
Anyway, if something happens which makes German prosecutors desire to see him, they now know where he resides.
Parole in one year. Just enough time to arrange for Mossad agents to cap him.
We have special ops guys who can administer the appropriate sentence in due time. Let's hope they do.
Instead, the German judiciary has used the fact that they hold this guy as an excuse to go on a fishing expedition into the treatment of Al Qaeda operatives in US custody. Essentially, they've said "we're going to let this one off to make up the for the fact that you're so mean to his friends." The sentence amounts to about 20 hours apiece for each of the lives lost on 9/11. That should really send a message to the terrorists about German political will.
The German judiciary is -thank God- extremely unflexible and immune to poltical pressure. This is the outcome of the attempt to overcome the arbitrary German justice of the 3rd Reich. Our Judges decide strictly on base of the existing laws. On this platform there was no possibility to sent Mounir al Motassadeq for a longer time to jail or even give him capital punishment (which is strictly forbidden by the German constitution).
Since the US gave German authorities no direct access to Binalshib, it was impossible to prove Motassadeq's guilt of being involved into 9/11. The German standarts to a testimony are very high (this is also a result of dark lessons of the German past). Therefore it was clear that interrigation protocols would not be sufficient to prove his entanglement. In Germany the old basic princible of legislation "in dubito pro reo" (if there are doubts the accused goes free) has validity. And: No judgment without a proof. The US authorities knew that in advance. If they would have real proof and real interest to bring Motassadeq for a long time behind bars, they should have open the access to Binalsibh. I am sure, that this poor jugde would have been happy to oblige. The only way to get a "soft" grip on this guy was to speak him guilty on the membership in a terrorist organization.
It is of course very unfortunate that things went this way, but it would be completely false to deny the will of the German judiciary to clean up with scum like that.
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