[MNJohnnie]

How many people know the extent of moonie funding of the Discovery Institute? How many papers have they published involving genuine research?

Ok, then prove ID theory wrong using the scientifc method.

Questioning the motivation of the source does not validate or invalidate the issue scientifically. This is my point about dogma. Your dogma, apparently based on dislike for the Moonies, is ID cannot possibly be fact because the Moonnies are the ones studying it. Using the Scientific method, your point cannot be proven or disproven. Your logic seems to be, If the Moonies then it is a lie. That is opinion, not science. I am willing to say about ID "I'll listen but show me the proof" rather then insist "Science" proves my personal opinions "true".

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Can't prove it wrong any more than I could prove that you are not a cleverly designed space alien.

That's the point.

ID cannot be falsified by any mechanism because there is no possible research approach to do it.

Evolution can be...but it hasn't. That's why scientists continue to use it.