Posted on 08/18/2005 5:17:34 PM PDT by curiosity
The bag is empty. ID has nothing to say. It's the only theory around which is about another theory being wrong.
There's only one thing keeping the left from killing us with this. The mainstream media doesn't know squat from science.
Science!
The terms "micro-evolution" and "macro-evolution" are pure inventions of the creationists. No such distinction exists in science. There is ONLY "evolution">>>
Bologney, I have had arguments with died in the wool pony tail wearing dirty frock and pocket protecting evcolutionist who speak of micro and macro evolution as evidence in evolution. Hell doing a google of micro evolution brings up 4.2 million hits, an awful lot for making things up.
More and more each year Behe, Dembski, and Wells are moving to ID!
Once again, bearing false witness. Shame, Shame on you.
Meanwhile we will probably end up losing Colorado & Nevada and possibly Florida and Ohio.
Really? What evidence do you have to support this assertion? Certainly not the exit polling from the last election where neither evolution nor intelligent design placed on issues concerning Americans. Of course, moral values did place, right at the top of the list. And lo and behold guess what happened? Yup, you got it, the Republicans extended their majorities all across the nation.
You guys remind of a stroy about a boy and a wolf.
I suggest you actually read about ID rather than putting words in there mouth, ID by its first proponents says it is meant to compliment and even explain processes that darwinism, neo darwinism anmd the like cannot explain. It is not meant to replace it, as evolution did to creationism, and you would assert.
The author seems to be referring to the Declaration of Independence "all men are CREATED equal" and "endowed by their CREATOR" with inalienable rights. He claims this concept was forged by science and ignores the Christian roots of the concept of equality.
Romans 10:12 - For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Colossians 3:11 - Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
Hard to recover the atmosphere in which Galileo found himself. He was convinced of the rightness of his worldview and his vanity brought him down. The great majority of all scholars were Aristotelans of some sort, and they hated him for his unorthodoxy. Rebels live a hard life, especially intellectual rebels, because scholars more than ordinary people, never change their minds.
The creos are running scared; threatened by what might be discovered by science.
What God created was perfect...you are forgetting what man "created"......sin
It was sin, that set in motion the deterioration (sickness, disease)of the perfect creation
That's a new one for me.
Who's the "large donor" who wants to replace the Constitution?
I know about the moonies and that the Kansas creationists were not above getting support from an Isamic guy who got evolution out of Turkish schools as un-Islamic
I for one will take morality over science in a heart beat. When was the last time you saw a book burned in this country? The last great fire I recall was in Waco, TX. I believe that Janet and Bill were both playing with themselves while women and children were burned to death.
Not very moral. My I suggest that this event was more like Hitler taking on the Jews. And the government didn't give a sXXt. I guess it was for the chulrun...you know it takes a fxxking village.
Screw the flaming liberals and their creationism. I go with ID. They will loose!
Words that mean nothing. Actions that should wake many of you up. If you believe that we all came about because of a big BANG and that the gorilla at the zoo is a distant cousin than you do in fact have alot to be afraid of. Fear the unknown.
Baloney! Neither off you read my original post. Your fight with me is misplaced if you believe in debate. Which I was assuming was axiomatic, given that you are Freeper.
I missed his cutting sarcasm in the first pass. I withdraw him from the anybody group but the statement stands.
You are saying that an omniscient didn't foresee all this? And being omnipotent, create it in the first place?
Intelligent design is not without science to back it up, and objective reasoning to support it...in most cases the objective reasoning in support of intelligent design is patently much stronger IMHO than evolution...but also rejected and denied on its face in a very unscientific and subjective way by the other side.
My point was that those supporting the theories of evolution apply their own version of faith in that support, whether they call it that or not.
You are right. I do normally avoid these science vs. theology threads. Too many terms that are defined diffrently by too many posters, apparently including myself. And too much hate, it seems to me. I didn't think there was room for vitriol among those who are scientists. Do scientists even CARE if anyone disagrees with them? I thought not. At bottom, or so it seems, we all have our agendas, even the "objective" ones among us.
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