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To: DaveTesla; silverleaf

Einstein did not believe in "Intelligent Design" as it's currently advocated by the ID movement. The quotes above from Einstein express a belief in 'theistic evolution' which is very distinct from contemporary ID.

theistic evolution: "it happened this way because God did it this way"

Intelligent Design: "it could not have happened this way and therefore God must have done it that way"


15 posted on 08/18/2005 6:52:43 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick)
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To: AntiGuv
Actually I think Einstein invented ID.

God does not play dice.
Albert Einstein

"The most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of true art and true science. Whoever does not know it and can no longer wonder, no longer marvel, is as good as dead, and his eyes are dimmed. It was the experience of mystery -- even if mixed with fear -- that engendered religion. A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, our perceptions of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which only in their most primitive forms are accessible to our minds: it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute true religiosity. In this sense, and only this sense, I am a deeply religious man... I am satisfied with the mystery of life's eternity and with a knowledge, a sense, of the marvelous structure of existence -- as well as the humble attempt to understand even a tiny portion of the Reason that manifests itself in nature."

"The World As I See It"
Albert Einstein
18 posted on 08/18/2005 7:16:41 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: AntiGuv

Isn't that what used to be called "quibbling"?

The concept both schools of thought share is....that there is/was an intelligent Creator and we are living in a universe of His/Her design.

It is the nature of that Creator....how "human-like" He is, and/or how "God-like" are we....is secondary and a matter of religious faith.


39 posted on 08/19/2005 5:45:32 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: AntiGuv
theistic evolution: "it happened this way because God did it this way"

Corollary: The most reliable way to learn about God's world, is without regard, reference, or even presumption of God.

73 posted on 08/20/2005 7:15:45 AM PDT by beavus (Hussein's war. Bush's response.)
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To: AntiGuv

"Einstein did not believe in "Intelligent Design" as it's currently advocated by the ID movement."

Correct. This is a big fallacy running through the ID camp.

Phillip K. Dick, huh? Amazing guy. I'll have to read the whole tag when I'm done with my comment, but a very interesting author. Did you read "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" (now retitled Bladerunner to match the movie?)


121 posted on 08/22/2005 6:31:06 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: AntiGuv

"("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick) "

Very good. Never heard that one.


122 posted on 08/22/2005 6:33:46 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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