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To: dukeman
Nice straw man.

What I said was a lie was that Jefferson's Danbury letter was in reference to the 10th rather than the 1st Amendment; and that "In summary, the “separation” phrase so frequently invoked today was rarely mentioned by any of the Founders".

So rarely mentioned that one can only find a DOZEN or so references to keeping religion and the state separate by the author of the 1st Amendment, Madison.

Just the facts. No need to lie to cover it up. The founders CLEARLY intended a separation between church and state.

Both Madison and Jefferson attended religious services in the House of Representatives, and although there was objection raised to pay for a congressional chaplain; neither took umbrage at the service being conducted on public property.
10 posted on 08/18/2005 1:06:13 PM PDT by Mylo ("Those without a sword should sell their cloak and buy one" Jesus of Nazareth)
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To: Mylo
So, I guess you need to be speciic in the future as to what you are calling a "lie."

I, too, am glad there is separation between church and state. The two, along with the family, have their own spheres of operation or "jurisdiction." The problems arise when one acts to poach into the domain of one or more of the others. For example, the church shouldn't go to war. That's how we got the Crusades- a huge wrong which set back the cause of Christ for centuries. War is the province of the state.

"Separation", however, is misused and construed by those who hate God in a way which causes the establishment clause to gobble up the free exercise clause. This is not what the framers intended and it should be resisted.

12 posted on 08/18/2005 2:22:28 PM PDT by dukeman
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