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To: Carry_Okie

If you're going to cherry-pick, there's plenty of things in the Bible that are anathema to our modern society, including the old punishments for some crimes. Stoning for adultery and all that.

If we were to judge Judaism solely on those few words, it would seem incompatible with our nation. But we don't. That would be silly. People don't take such things as literal proscriptions any more.

I do not disagree that fundies are the Muslim majority. But there are also moderates. I wish they would raise their voices sometimes, but there are moderates. It's not so black and white as you might like to believe.

It is possible for one to be a Muslim without automatically advocating the violent overthrow of the United States. Therefore the faith itself cannot be illegal, only certain practices within the faith, same as LDS.

We don't have to love it, but we cannot outlaw it. We cannot remove First Amendment protection of it just because we don't like it, which is what we were talking about in the first place.


43 posted on 08/19/2005 6:49:10 AM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball
If you're going to cherry-pick, there's plenty of things in the Bible that are anathema to our modern society, including the old punishments for some crimes. Stoning for adultery and all that.

That has NOTHING to do with the threat of Islam to America.

Strike one.

If we were to judge Judaism solely on those few words, it would seem incompatible with our nation. But we don't. That would be silly. People don't take such things as literal proscriptions any more.

Typical construction on a false premise.

Strike two.

I do not disagree that fundies are the Muslim majority. But there are also moderates. I wish they would raise their voices sometimes, but there are moderates. It's not so black and white as you might like to believe.

Whether or no, those who aren't fundies will fall in line on pain of death. They are supplying money and children.

It is possible for one to be a Muslim without automatically advocating the violent overthrow of the United States. Therefore the faith itself cannot be illegal, only certain practices within the faith, same as LDS.

I NEVER SAID THAT THE FAITH SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. False premise number two.

We don't have to love it, but we cannot outlaw it. We cannot remove First Amendment protection of it just because we don't like it, which is what we were talking about in the first place.

Get this through your thick skull: I NEVER SAID WE SHOULD OUTLAW ISLAM. I said we should enforce laws prohibiting sedition.

Without a straw man, you've got nothing.

44 posted on 08/19/2005 7:28:10 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us three choices: submit, kill, or be killed.)
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