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Another service of Darwin Central, the conspiracy that cares.
Long before the world was created there was an island, floating in the sky, upon which the Sky People lived. They lived quietly and happily. No one ever died or was born or experienced sadness. However one day one of the Sky Women realized she was going to give birth to twins. She told her husband, who flew into a rage. In the center of the island there was a tree which gave light to the entire island since the sun hadn't been created yet. He tore up this tree, creating a huge hole in the middle of the island. Curiously, the woman peered into the hole. Far below she could see the waters that covered the earth. At that moment her husband pushed her. She fell through the hole, tumbling towards the waters below.
Water animals already existed on the earth, so far below the floating island two birds saw the Sky Woman fall. Just before she reached the waters they caught her on their backs and brought her to the other animals. Determined to help the woman they dove into the water to get mud from the bottom of the seas. One after another the animals tried and failed. Finally, Little Toad tried and when he reappeared his mouth was full of mud. The animals took it and spread it on the back of Big Turtle. The mud began to grow and grow and grow until it became the size of North America.
Then the woman stepped onto the land. She sprinkled dust into the air and created stars. Then she created the moon and sun.
The Sky Woman gave birth to twin sons. She named one Sapling. He grew to be kind and gentle. She named the other Flint and his heart was as cold as his name. They grew quickly and began filling the earth with their creations.
Sapling created what is good. He made animals that are useful to humans. He made rivers that went two ways and into these he put fish without bones. He made plants that people could eat easily. If he was able to do all the work himself there would be no suffering.
Flint destroyed much of Sapling's work and created all that is bad. He made the rivers flow only in one direction. He put bones in fish and thorns on berry bushes. He created winter, but Sapling gave it life so that it could move to give way to Spring. He created monsters which his brother drove beneath the Earth.
Eventually Sapling and Flint decided to fight till one conquered the other. Neither was able to win at first, but finally Flint was beaten. Because he was a god Flint could not die, so he was forced to live on Big Turtle's back. Occasionally his anger is felt in the form of a volcano.
The Iroquois people hold a great respect for all animals. This is mirrored in their creation myth by the role the animals play. Without the animals' help the Sky Woman may have sunk to the bottom of the sea and earth may not have been created.
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For the record, he was asked point blank if ID is an alternative to evolution, and carefully avoided saying yes.
I think this implies at least two things. He probably personally believes in ID. He thinks ID is part of the conservative movement and should be supported.
I think he's wrong on both counts, but that's just me.
I'm in the eleventh day of asking ID supporters to define themselves in positive rather than negative terms. We all know that, at a minimum, ID differes from "Darwinism" by insisting that random mutations plus selection are not adequate to produce new species.
That is a negative statement that does not suggest any researchable alternative. I want to know what ID supporters believe, not just what they don't believe. I want to know what they would teach as the content of science courses.
Do ID advocates accept the scientific determination of the age of the earth? Do they accept the geologists explanation of the geologic column? And so forth.
This is quite funny.
Somehow SETI wants us to believe that searching for signs of intelligence in outer space is science, but that searching for it in the building blocks of living organisms is not.
Sorry, SETI...
The belief in extraterrestrials, and the need to find their existance is no more scientific than the belief/need with regards to intelligent design.
Huzzahh! Huzzahh!
Over 300????? absolutely astounding, and without advertising, I bet!
Gee, you realize your pro Evo ping list on FR is only 100 names short of the anti-Evo "Scientists who Question Evolution" list. In another 6 months or a year, you'll surpass event that!
Just goes to show how narrow the support for anti-Evo-ism really is, but we knew that from "Gödel's" poll taken here on FR a few years ago, which after subtracting the multiple hundreds of over-votes by two anti-Evo's, resulted in something like a 5 or 10 to 1 ratio of pro-Evo to pro-Creationism posters on FR.
So, let the celebration begin! I hear DarwinCentral is springing for the drinks.....
Huzzah! Huzzah!
I haven't heard him say anything like that on his regular show, but I don't listen too much.
The conservative movement is traveling headlong into a ditch like the left did with gay marriage etc. They're all hopped up on their new found power and so they're doing stupid things like this.
I suppose that it's inevitable that parties in power get a big head and think they can do anything without consequences. Maybe that's what maintains the stability of the "two party system".