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To: billbears
Exactly what He said He was doing. Protecting His Father's (or His) house.

I can't let you weasel out of that one. You wrote earlier: "Republicans must come to grips with the truth that they are not the Christian party. Christ did not 'force' anything on anyone. He gave us a choice to accept His love. Yes, there are consequences for making the wrong decision but at no point in the New Testament did He 'force' anything on anyone. He always gave the choice of free will."

... and I replied, "How would you characterize Jesus driving the moneychangers out of the temple with a scourge of cords?"

And your response was, "Exactly what He said He was doing. Protecting His Father's (or His) house"?

No offense, but Christ driving people out of the temple with the threat of a beating can only be described as forcing his will on people. In fact, your entire characterization of Christ is bogus. Christ threatened non-believers with hell and eternal damnation, and threatened the disobedient with a beating with "many stripes". Our (man's) current system of justice differs only with Christ's system of justice in that our system of justice promises punishment for criminal or disobedient acts in this life.

162 posted on 08/21/2005 8:01:05 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." -- Psalms 19:1)
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To: PhilipFreneau
In fact, your entire characterization of Christ is bogus.

Please enlighten me. Put Christ into your little partisan box and explain how Christ would only vote Republican. Explain how Christ would use the state to forward His message, even though it was the state that tried Him and crucified Him for His actions and His words. Granted He allowed it but I would love to watch such an ardent Republican as yourself try to explain it.

Christ threatened non-believers with hell and eternal damnation, and threatened the disobedient with a beating with "many stripes"

He threatened no one. He simply stated a fact of the wrong choice of our free will.

Our (man's) current system of justice differs only with Christ's system of justice in that our system of justice promises punishment for criminal or disobedient acts in this life

Wow, Christ was all about punishment. And to think I've sat in church all these years thinking Christ was here to show us God's love and His grace through His sacrifice. And to think He was here to teach us to use the state to force people to live a certain way. Makes you wonder why God didn't just put a fence around the tree in the first place doesn't it? Heck He could have forced Adam and Eve to live right.

I said He was protecting His Father's house. And if you read the Scripture that's exactly what He said He was doing (Matthew 2:12)

Our (man's) current system of justice differs only with Christ's system of justice in that our system of justice promises punishment for criminal or disobedient acts in this life

We're not talking about the system of justice, we're talking about whether Christ would vote Democratic or Republican. And the point is that I doubt He would vote for either considering their stances on multiple issues

165 posted on 08/21/2005 8:18:13 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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