[DTogo]

Truth check: It still takes 12 to 15 years for an "average" modern windmill to produce enough electricity to pay for it's own creation. Worse, now they're using "exotic" materials to make them which produce a high level of potential environmental damage and problems with toxic disposal.

FALSE! Windmills have a capital cost recovery period of about 3~5 years. And there are NO "exotic" materials in a modern windmill, unless you consider steel and fiberglass "exotic."

[xcamel]

Wrongo, that payback period is only figured after government subsidies and tax write offs.

Also, check Vestas corp that makes them. Hybrid metals, exotic resins, plastics, carbon fiber composites, not wood and sailcloth any more.