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1 posted on 08/18/2005 6:04:46 AM PDT by OESY
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BTTT


2 posted on 08/18/2005 6:07:05 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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Because, it's becoming clear that the commission's failure to delve into Able Danger has less to do with the unit's credibility than it does with protecting commission member Jamie Gorelick.

BULL'S EYE!
3 posted on 08/18/2005 6:08:13 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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These are dangerous times. Whenever the left is about to be nailed something big happens to divert attention.


4 posted on 08/18/2005 6:08:25 AM PDT by TBall
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To: Senator Kunte Klinte
Let me get this straight. Chairman Kean of the 9/11 Commission considers a vague threat by al-Qaeda to attack the U.S., which was unspecific as to time, place or means, to be "historically significant" while the identification in advance of the individual cells that would carry out the attacks in which thousands (potentially millions) of Americans would die is "historically insignificant." Meanwhile, Kean is hammering the administration and intelligence agencies for not connecting the dots and demanding a new layer of bureaucracy be put in place so dissenting information will be brought forward. Kean's chutzpah is as mind-boggling in it's logic as it is delusional.

If the Commission had been properly led by someone who understood the U.S. intelligence effort (instead of constantly apologizing for his lack of knowledge), one of the Commission's recommendations should have been for Congress to bring back the Able Danger data mining capability that it banned in 2003. Privacy advocates have no case since the programs were not directed against individuals, but rather behavioral patterns consistent with terrorist activities. Such programs were, in retrospect, effective in identifying potential killers but was misused as a result of politics and the Reno-Gorelick Wall. There is no reason why we must fight this war with one arm tied behind our back. To save lives we need to win.
5 posted on 08/18/2005 6:08:34 AM PDT by OESY
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"Because, it's becoming clear that the commission's failure to delve into Able Danger has less to do with the unit's credibility than it does with protecting commission member Jamie Gorelick."

Mr Rove at work again..they let the Dems think by stacking the commission the Dems could deflect the damage of the truth of the Clinton's failure..I wondered by Gorelick was left on the commission after the Wall memo..Mr Rove was giving them the rope to hang themselves with..
As we all know it is not the crime it's the COVERUP that gets you in the most trouble..LOL ROVE"S PLAN COMES TOGETHER..LOL
6 posted on 08/18/2005 6:12:02 AM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (A sucker is born every minute..what are the voters?)
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To: OESY
...protecting commission member Jamie Gorelick.

Yes they want to protect Gorelick, but she is the cut-out, the cat's paw, for Clinton. Protecting Clinton is the Commission's ultimate purpose.

7 posted on 08/18/2005 6:13:16 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: OESY

I always come back to same question: If Iraq has nothing to do with Al Qaeda, why does it upset Al Qaeda so much that the US is trying to bring human rights and democracy to Iraq? ....Because Iraq has everything to do with this war of ideas!

Look, if after 9/11, the US attacked Columbia, then that truly would have been a distraction from the war on terror. Al Qaeda and the Dems would have been happy if Bush did that.....guaranteed!


11 posted on 08/18/2005 6:15:34 AM PDT by Firefox1
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This is my opinion,

I think this story, weather the MSM likes it or not (the latter) will snowball...I was watching Oreilly, and if he stays true to his word, he will push this story until the truth is known....This will snow ball like the "Swift Boat Veterans"...
17 posted on 08/18/2005 6:26:00 AM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (Thank you America)
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To: OESY

From everything I have read about this issue it seems there were a few things being covered up by the Comission. First off, Gorelick's appointment to the Comission is a sure sign of the cover up. Let her cover up the mess she created at the request of her puppet masters the Clintons (Bill and Hillary, as she was appointed by Hillary). It also seems they wanted to cover up the methods by which Able Danger was able to obtain it's information. According to another thread, they used the same techniques that were implemented in 2003, but the program came to a halt due to an uproar from media and critics.
It seems to me all Comission members, Demorcat and Republican need to be held accountable for these omissions and explain honestly and openly to the American people why they did so.
Then we can get on with the business of reopening the FBI and CIA cases dealing with the Chinese Government's illegal contributions to the DNC in exchange for top secret nuclear technology. Then we can throw Bill and Hill in the can...but when Gorelick ends up dead, will the media turn their heads away once again?


20 posted on 08/18/2005 6:31:00 AM PDT by Ragtop (We are the people our parents warned us about)
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To: OESY; Howlin; backhoe; JaneAustin; ravingnutter; STARWISE; Mo1
Does anyone remember if Clinton's final briefings to President Bush contained much of a warning about AQ?
22 posted on 08/18/2005 6:32:50 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: OESY

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NEVER FORGET


'The Man Who Predicted 9/11 - RICK RESCORLA'

The History Channel

9pm ET/PT, 8pm CT

September 11, 2005

http://www.RickRescorla.com

http://www.strategyzoneonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361


Tell'em "ALOHA RONNIE" sent ya, OK..?


NEVER FORGET

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35 posted on 08/18/2005 6:59:23 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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"Still, the problem transcends Gorelick."

It sure does. It includes the question of how Washington insiders could put on a dog-and-pony show, the purpose of which was to exonerate the Clinton Administration.


36 posted on 08/18/2005 7:11:53 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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It's easy for commission staff to deny being told about Able Danger when they didn't tape interviews. Their memorandums and notes can easily be made to reflect the final report.

IMO, there was no investigation at all by the 9/11 Commission. Without interviews, they had no transcripts to use in resolving conflicting information. Without transcripts, they could easily dismiss information which didn't fit the final report.


40 posted on 08/18/2005 7:31:05 AM PDT by yoswif
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Don't be distracted by "the Wall." That was not the proximate cause of the Able Danger shutup. Able Danger was shut up by Pentagon lawyers, and I would be willing to bet that every one of them was hired or at least well trained by Jamie Gorelick when she was General Counsel at the Pentagon. It's the MO of Democrat administrations to bring in partisan loyalists as general counsels of all the agencies and then have them purge all lawyers hired by the previous Administration, and "retrain" the remaining ones to follow orders from the leftwing politicals. I know for a fact that the Clintonistas did this at the Departments of HUD, Commerce, Treasury, and Transportation, because I know Republican lawyers who were fired at all those agencies. Webb Hubbell cleaned house at DOJ. The Clintons fired all the U.S. attorneys. It's only logical that they did it at Defense as well. This is the real legacy of Jamie Gorelick and the real reason why she and the Clinton hit squad are so desperate to get this off the front pages. This does go all the way up to Hillary and they know it.


41 posted on 08/18/2005 7:33:49 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Where is Chris Lehane??)
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To: OESY

bump


51 posted on 08/18/2005 8:48:56 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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