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To: Clemenza
I am quite proud of my accomplishments in helping to achieve not only my personal goals, but in contributing to bettering the performance of my clients. I would say that I have achieved alot in my 29 years.

No question about it, and that has never been questioned. But it was rather telling that you do not realize that, throughout history and across cultures, one typically did all that AND had offspring. A successful deviation from easy to difficult is a justifiable source of pride, wouldn't you say? But the converse is not true. If you, as many others in modern Western society, reduce your accomplishments -- from personal/professional AND having offspring to personal/professional only --- whence the feeling of pride? As I said earlier, one can fall down or remain in a natural state without effort.

Nevertheless, I DO NOT need a wife and rug rats to PROVE anything.

And that is the most telling part --- that you confuse the ability to love, share and give life with proving something.

Very sad.

52 posted on 08/17/2005 3:52:29 PM PDT by ExitPurgamentum
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To: ExitPurgamentum
If you, as many others in modern Western society, reduce your accomplishments -- from personal/professional AND having offspring to personal/professional only --- whence the feeling of pride? As I said earlier, one can fall down or remain in a natural state without effort.

Yeah. Just look at that slacker Issac Newton.

58 posted on 08/17/2005 3:56:17 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent (These pretzels are making me thirsty)
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To: ExitPurgamentum
But it was rather telling that you do not realize that, throughout history and across cultures, one typically did all that AND had offspring.

What is the point of having offspring? Any moron can do that. It certainly should not be a point of pride.

Just because having children gratifies some personal desire on your part does not mean that everyone else needs the same kind of gratification. Nor does it contribute in a meaningful sense to the well-being of the country. Doing a job well in the abstract is worth what it is worth, the same as any other.

61 posted on 08/17/2005 4:01:49 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: ExitPurgamentum
But it was rather telling that you do not realize that, throughout history and across cultures, one typically did all that AND had offspring

Having offspring, in of itself, is nothing to be proud of. Anything that a couple of drunken 16 year-olds can accomplish isn't something that inherently creates pride.

123 posted on 08/18/2005 7:03:53 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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