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Did bad heroin kill two coeds?
New York Daily News and lastnightsparty.com ^ | 8/16/05 | AUSTIN FENNER, ADAM LISBERG and ROBERT F. MOORE

Posted on 08/17/2005 11:44:14 AM PDT by BurbankKarl

Two college coeds used cocaine with a pair of convicted drug dealers and had fresh needle marks on their arms when they overdosed in a lower East Side apartment, sources said yesterday.

Police believe a bad batch of heroin may have contributed to the deaths of Mellie Carballo and Maria Pesantez, both 18 and with promising futures.

It was unclear who supplied the drugs, but heartbroken relatives of the victims blamed Roberto Martinez, 41, and Alfredo (Tito) Morales, 33, who were with the teens Friday when the students apparently overdosed.

"How is it possible that they are free?" asked distraught father Juan Carlos Pesantez outside the family's home in Jackson Heights, Queens. "With those [criminal] records? With two girls dead?"

Carballo, a second-semester student at Hunter College, and Pesantez, an NYU sophomore, were found about 6 p.m. Friday in an apartment at 484 E. Houston St. Carballo died 20 minutes later and Pesantez died Sunday.

The men admitted doing cocaine with the women, who met at St. Vincent Ferrer High School in Manhattan, a law enforcement source said.

Martinez, who placed a bouquet of red roses in front of the E. Houston St. apartment yesterday, told a different story to the Daily News. He said he came to the apartment, where Morales lives, after Morales called him in a panic.

"I saw [Pesantez] in the bedroom catching a seizure," Martinez said yesterday. "I tried to give her mouth-to-mouth and then I called 911."

Martinez said he met Carballo at a bar about a month ago and didn't meet Pesantez until Friday. He denied giving the women drugs, saying they brought drugs to Morales' apartment.

No one has been arrested and toxicology results are pending.

Morales was convicted in 1995 of possession of cocaine with intent to sell. Martinez, whose is on parole, has 13 narcotics arrests.

The coeds' friends told cops the women wanted to try heroin, a police source said. The friends also told police that Carballo, a former MTV intern, and Pesantez, a pianist and National Honor Society member, had done drugs before.

Relatives dispute that account.

"To my knowledge, she had never experimented with anything," said Celeste Carballo, 21, who shared a room with her sister at the family's West Side apartment.

College students Mellie Carballo (left) and Maria Pesantez, both 18, in an undated photo. The coeds died of suspected drug overdoses in a lower East Side apartment

Photos taken from memorial at http://www.lastnightsparty.com/mellie/index.html


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: addiction; dependence; heroin; wodlist
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To: Know your rights
Heroin will never be legalized in your lifetime.

The girls only had two choices. They selected the wrong one. Tough.

261 posted on 08/17/2005 5:02:01 PM PDT by verity (Big Dick Durbin is still a POS)
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To: BurbankKarl

Thank you for posting this article. Hopefully some one will read and learn. There is no such thing as good heroin, just varieties of bad heroin.


262 posted on 08/17/2005 5:03:19 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: trubluolyguy
I never mocked their deaths.

Go to their funeral, and get up at the podium, and state for all to hear, "It's a good start." and see how it goes over. You posted those words here - now you say you aren't mocking their deaths.

Here's what Dictionary.com says about mock, used as a verb:

mock   Audio pronunciation of "mock" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (mk)
v. mocked, mock·ing, mocks
v. tr.
  1. To treat with ridicule or contempt; deride.
    1. To mimic, as in sport or derision. See Synonyms at ridicule.
    2. To imitate; counterfeit.
  2. To frustrate the hopes of; disappoint.

Definition #1 applies perfectly to you, you don't have anything but contempt for these, uh, "complete morons" as you put it.

263 posted on 08/17/2005 5:03:23 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: coloradan

I once sent a poison pen card to a bitter enemy of mine who lost her son to suicide. Basically I said I don't blame him for prefering the sweet release of death as opposed to dealing with her for a lifetime.

Yep, I'm a real mean guy.


264 posted on 08/17/2005 5:04:48 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: BurbankKarl

This is a good example of why heroin should be legal. During prohibition people were going blind and being poisoned by poorly made alcohol.

Actually an even better example is when heroin itself was legal in America, in the 1800's. Companies have an interest in making sure their product is properly made at non lethal mixtures.


265 posted on 08/17/2005 5:09:18 PM PDT by ran15
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To: Nodoginit

The Last Rated X

Whoa, that is one scary skank-a-thon.

Two questions:

How did you find the link?

Did you shower immediately afterwards?


266 posted on 08/17/2005 5:13:31 PM PDT by beaver fever
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To: coloradan

"It's a good start"


I really wasn't making fun, or joking.


267 posted on 08/17/2005 5:15:07 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Well, why did you pull a gun on me if you didn't want to have sex?)
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To: Southack

You present no evidence for your case. Furthermore, your explanation fails to explain why men would ever do heroin. (Do beautiful women want to have sex with ugly men, but only if those men are also heroin users?)


268 posted on 08/17/2005 5:15:32 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: trubluolyguy

No, you were holding them in contempt, which amounts to "mocking" them, by definition. They were "complete morons," according to you.


269 posted on 08/17/2005 5:18:23 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: coloradan

"No, you were holding them in contempt"


Yes, you are completely and totally correct, I hold them and anyone else that callously throws their life away on drugs to be COMPLETE MORONS and while I am NOT happy they died, I am VERY happy they didn't breed before they died, so they didn't infect the gene pool any further.


270 posted on 08/17/2005 5:27:24 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Well, why did you pull a gun on me if you didn't want to have sex?)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
but the pushers and trafficers should be delt with harshly, Islamic style.

There would be much less of a problem then.

"Iran has executed more than 10,000 narcotics traffickers in the last decade;"

--www.payvand.com/news/04/mar/1012.htm

"Iran has the highest proportion of heroin addicts in the world and a growing Aids problem."

--news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/3791889.stm

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[Malaysia]"The National Drug Agency (ADK) has, through its efforts, registered more than 300,000 addicts in its drug fight. However, just like the iceberg, the numbers are only what is seen above the surface. Some local studies have suggested there are an estimated three to four addicts who are not registered with the ADK for every one that is." 

--thestar.com.my/health/story.asp?file=/2005/4/17/health/10678978&sec=health

271 posted on 08/17/2005 5:37:15 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: BurbankKarl

A needless tragedy! What once were viewed as the simple joys of teenhood are now become a parent's worse nightmare. May God have mercy on their souls!


272 posted on 08/17/2005 5:54:04 PM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Blackirish

"I think everybody deserves a 2nd chance. I believe that was Jesus's message also."

Another mindless misrepresentation of Christ and manipulating the bible to custom fit poor excuses for grossly poor behavior ie., YOUR warped views. I suppose Hitler and Dr. Mengala should've received second chances after throwing thousands of adults into firey furnaces and innocent children into pits burning them to a crisp. Try to grasp some semblance of rational perspective.


273 posted on 08/17/2005 5:56:22 PM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: Nov3

Yeah, well, people tend to like to distance themselves from tragedy in different ways...


274 posted on 08/17/2005 6:05:44 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Ken H

Ok, so maybe that's not the cure all. Just frustrated at the loss of human potential to dope.


275 posted on 08/17/2005 6:11:41 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Know your rights

"So you must also support banning alcohol until such time as no alkie ever (*ever*) costs you a dime. Right?"

Yup. Why do you ask, do you think it's your "right" to get stoned on my dime?


276 posted on 08/17/2005 6:14:51 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: durasell
Yeah, well, people tend to like to distance themselves from tragedy in different ways...

If that was the explanation I could understand. It's not and I don't.

277 posted on 08/17/2005 6:20:17 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Nov3

It is and you should.


278 posted on 08/17/2005 6:21:15 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

I think you need to reread the thread.


279 posted on 08/17/2005 6:37:58 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: coloradan

They were "complete morons," according to you.





Gee I view people who shoot unknown toxic poisons into their veins as complete morons too, so sue me. Shrug.


280 posted on 08/17/2005 6:38:28 PM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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