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Did bad heroin kill two coeds?
New York Daily News and lastnightsparty.com ^ | 8/16/05 | AUSTIN FENNER, ADAM LISBERG and ROBERT F. MOORE

Posted on 08/17/2005 11:44:14 AM PDT by BurbankKarl

Two college coeds used cocaine with a pair of convicted drug dealers and had fresh needle marks on their arms when they overdosed in a lower East Side apartment, sources said yesterday.

Police believe a bad batch of heroin may have contributed to the deaths of Mellie Carballo and Maria Pesantez, both 18 and with promising futures.

It was unclear who supplied the drugs, but heartbroken relatives of the victims blamed Roberto Martinez, 41, and Alfredo (Tito) Morales, 33, who were with the teens Friday when the students apparently overdosed.

"How is it possible that they are free?" asked distraught father Juan Carlos Pesantez outside the family's home in Jackson Heights, Queens. "With those [criminal] records? With two girls dead?"

Carballo, a second-semester student at Hunter College, and Pesantez, an NYU sophomore, were found about 6 p.m. Friday in an apartment at 484 E. Houston St. Carballo died 20 minutes later and Pesantez died Sunday.

The men admitted doing cocaine with the women, who met at St. Vincent Ferrer High School in Manhattan, a law enforcement source said.

Martinez, who placed a bouquet of red roses in front of the E. Houston St. apartment yesterday, told a different story to the Daily News. He said he came to the apartment, where Morales lives, after Morales called him in a panic.

"I saw [Pesantez] in the bedroom catching a seizure," Martinez said yesterday. "I tried to give her mouth-to-mouth and then I called 911."

Martinez said he met Carballo at a bar about a month ago and didn't meet Pesantez until Friday. He denied giving the women drugs, saying they brought drugs to Morales' apartment.

No one has been arrested and toxicology results are pending.

Morales was convicted in 1995 of possession of cocaine with intent to sell. Martinez, whose is on parole, has 13 narcotics arrests.

The coeds' friends told cops the women wanted to try heroin, a police source said. The friends also told police that Carballo, a former MTV intern, and Pesantez, a pianist and National Honor Society member, had done drugs before.

Relatives dispute that account.

"To my knowledge, she had never experimented with anything," said Celeste Carballo, 21, who shared a room with her sister at the family's West Side apartment.

College students Mellie Carballo (left) and Maria Pesantez, both 18, in an undated photo. The coeds died of suspected drug overdoses in a lower East Side apartment

Photos taken from memorial at http://www.lastnightsparty.com/mellie/index.html


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: addiction; dependence; heroin; wodlist
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To: Know your rights

I understand ... if I were in your position of having the facts and logic against me, I wouldn't debate either.


..........

I understand that you are only interested in baiting, repition and get your jollies with endless banter. I bet you re-read your own posts to feed and bolster your insatiable ego. Face it, your life as a narcissis is a lonely drag.


201 posted on 08/17/2005 3:39:59 PM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: Know your rights

I proved my case, you dropped the subject.

You're a poor debater and a liar.


202 posted on 08/17/2005 3:40:08 PM PDT by G32
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To: G32

You have wandered into the swamp of debating legality of drugs with a proponent. I suggest you consult the map of common sense and head back to the main road.


203 posted on 08/17/2005 3:41:22 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: SunnySide

"Face it, your life as a narcissis is a lonely drag."

Narcissism and paranoia, hallmarks of illegal drug use. And know your rights spews forth with it everytime he posts.


204 posted on 08/17/2005 3:41:22 PM PDT by G32
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To: durasell

I'm a veteran of it. The users are persistant, but so am I.


205 posted on 08/17/2005 3:42:04 PM PDT by G32
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To: SunnySide
I understand that you are only interested in baiting, repition and get your jollies with endless banter. I bet you re-read your own posts to feed and bolster your insatiable ego. Face it, your life as a narcissis is a lonely drag.

*yawn* More personal attacks from WODdies with no facts or logic to offer. In other news, dog bites man.

206 posted on 08/17/2005 3:43:19 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: BurbankKarl

The bad heroin might have killed the two coeds. Using it certainly did.


207 posted on 08/17/2005 3:43:45 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: BurbankKarl
"Did bad heroin kill two coeds?"

As opposed to good heroin? :-(

208 posted on 08/17/2005 3:44:00 PM PDT by infocats
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To: G32

There is no end to it.


209 posted on 08/17/2005 3:44:09 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: BurbankKarl
I did a lot of foolish and violent things when I was a kid. Heroin...Coke...You name it. Could of OD'd ....got killed in a fight. Served some time. Now I'm a good freeper and good guy. I just got lucky and grew up ...Thank God. These girls didn't.

RIP girls. May God hold you in His hands.
210 posted on 08/17/2005 3:45:12 PM PDT by Blackirish (“This country is not worth dying for" .....Cindy Sheehan)
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To: G32
You never proved that the word play and sentence structure were "unique." The fact that your links don't prove your claims doesn't absolve you of the burden of proving your claims; I've presented facts and logic, and you've presented squat.

I proved my case, you dropped the subject.

What subject? Whatever you're claiming, let's see the proof.

You're a poor debater and a liar.

LOL! You can't buy irony like that.

211 posted on 08/17/2005 3:45:33 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: G32
The difference is that these kids ask for it

Yes, I...I feel so bad these IDIOTS will miss out on their "promising futures."

Perhaps you two can get together and celebrate the death of young girls or stupid young people in general? It is a fun and rewarding hobby judging from the comments on this thread. After all it could NEVER happen to any teenager you know, right. These girls were damaged goods from the git go! They deserved to die and their deaths should be mocked!

212 posted on 08/17/2005 3:46:41 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Blackirish
RIP girls. May God hold you in His hands.

So you don't think their deaths are "a good start" as one FReeper posted?

213 posted on 08/17/2005 3:46:42 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: hombre_sincero
Yes, it's a matter of personal choice, but the pushers and trafficers should be delt with harshly, Islamic style.

There would be much less of a problem then.

214 posted on 08/17/2005 3:47:08 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Know your rights

I proved that you're mrleroy, that's all.

Just because you don't get it, doesn't mean much. You don't get anything it seems, except 'pro drugs forever'.


215 posted on 08/17/2005 3:47:17 PM PDT by G32
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To: Know your rights

"Why would you post a falsehood like that?"


Given the stance of the PERSON I WAS REPLYING TO I think it was as apt as calling me a racist homophobe without having the first clue about me or what I stand for.


216 posted on 08/17/2005 3:48:00 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Well, why did you pull a gun on me if you didn't want to have sex?)
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To: moonman
"Police believe a bad batch of heroin may have contributed to the deaths of Mellie Carballo and Maria Pesantez, both 18 and with promising futures" That darn 'bad' batch of heroin. Had it been a 'good' batch, well, who knows? The world may have been their oyster.

Exactly. Two fast deaths from 'bad' heroin. Or two slow deaths from heroin addiction. Either way, illegal drugs kill. The cops should find another way to label it, illegal heroin (I'm no scientist, does heroin have any 'good' uses?) is always bad. It is an absolute waste of two talented young womens lives. And, frankly, they probably, at their ages, had heard all the 'don't do drugs' talk and the DARE presentations, yet they were sucked in by the 'allure' anyway. A tragedy whether they are 2 young coeds or 2 high school drop outs.

217 posted on 08/17/2005 3:48:41 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Blackirish
I did a lot of foolish and violent things when I was a kid. Heroin...Coke...You name it. Could of OD'd ....got killed in a fight. Served some time. Now I'm a good freeper and good guy. I just got lucky and grew up ...Thank God. These girls didn't.

RIP girls. May God hold you in His hands.

Amen, I survived the stupidity and invincibility of my youth by the grace of God.

218 posted on 08/17/2005 3:48:41 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: G32
I proved that you're mrleroy

False. Although you do deserve credit for just that once trying to prove your claims.

219 posted on 08/17/2005 3:48:42 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights

Do you talk to your dealer like that?


220 posted on 08/17/2005 3:48:58 PM PDT by G32
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