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An outfit suitable for Mars
nature.com ^ | 08/16/05 | Kendall Powell

Posted on 08/16/2005 8:20:44 PM PDT by KevinDavis

The gas-pressurized space suits used by astronauts for space walks and moon landings would never work on Mars. That's the consensus, at least among astrobiologists and simulation experts at the Eighth International Mars Society Convention, which took place 11-14 August in Boulder, Colorado.

A solution, they say, may lie with an old idea.

The Mechanical Counter Pressure (MCP) suit aims to use elasticity to provide pressure instead. Paul Webb, a physician from Yellow Springs, Ohio originally proposed this idea in 1968, as a safer and more flexible alternative to the bulky Apollo mission suits. His idea didn't take flight until recently, however, when the US space programme began casting an eye towards the red planet.

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: astronauts; mars; suits
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1 posted on 08/16/2005 8:20:45 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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Read the end of the article and all I can say is eeeeeeeeuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!

Who wants to wear a suit designed by Sen "Depends" Leahey's uroligist.


2 posted on 08/16/2005 8:25:03 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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3 posted on 08/16/2005 8:26:23 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles --> http://www.cafepress.com/kevinspace1)
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Webb's suit has been tested in a pressure chamber at an air pressure close to martian levels, about the equivalent of 24,300 metres above Earth's sea level. A test subject managed to pedal a bicycle for an hour in these conditions.

Guess they will be taking mountain bikes to Mars.
4 posted on 08/16/2005 8:29:33 PM PDT by MarkeyD (I really, really loathe liberals.)
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Are you sure that's suppose to be in meters???

That's about 80,000 feet or near the edge of space...


5 posted on 08/16/2005 9:33:37 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: SandRat

Sen. "Leaky" Leahey did not get his name because of depends problems.

He could not keep a secret when he was on the Senate Intelligence Committee. He was always leaking the intelligence to the press.


6 posted on 08/16/2005 9:34:08 PM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: DB

If I remember right, that is probably correct.

It seems to me that mars has an atmospheric pressure of 10-20 millibars which is earth pressure near 80,000 feet.


7 posted on 08/16/2005 9:38:00 PM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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But it is reasonably comfortable so long as the air the astronaut breathes is pressurized to match the suit's constrictiveness.

Huh... Sounds like an Inzer brand powerlifting shirt for benchpressing, squats and deadlifting. Oof.

8 posted on 08/16/2005 9:39:49 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (Steel Bonnets Over the Border)
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To: Lokibob

With Sen "Depends" it all Depends on if he thinks it will make him look important if so he leaks


9 posted on 08/17/2005 5:18:09 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: KevinDavis

Science catching up to Science Fiction. Several authors have proposed similar suits. Greg Bear, Dan Simmons, probably a whole host of others. It is a common sense idea actually.


10 posted on 08/17/2005 7:22:35 AM PDT by Paradox (Budweiser, fighting for the Right to Keep and Beer Arms.)
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To: DB

Not sure. It's a quote from the article. Sounded high to me too. I bet they meant feet.


11 posted on 08/17/2005 7:22:59 AM PDT by MarkeyD (I really, really loathe liberals.)
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Mars air pressure varies from 6 to 10 millibars. Lets say 10 mb, just to be optimistic. That is roughly equivalent to earth pressures at 85,000 feet. Yup, that high up. Mars' atmosphere is barely there.


12 posted on 08/17/2005 7:49:47 AM PDT by Paradox (Budweiser, fighting for the Right to Keep and Beer Arms.)
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To: KevinDavis
Take the clue from the Enterprise crew


13 posted on 08/17/2005 7:52:20 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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Of course, the Vulcan might be able to get away with just wearing a cranial life support system. Space may be dangerous but it can be quite beautiful.


14 posted on 08/17/2005 7:55:16 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: KevinDavis
Effects of prolonged high-energy radiation (Life Scale)


15 posted on 08/17/2005 7:57:13 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Those look like old style pressure suits to me. I think the progression is expected to look more like this:


16 posted on 08/17/2005 8:05:37 AM PDT by Paradox (Budweiser, fighting for the Right to Keep and Beer Arms.)
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To: Paradox

Wow, that one on the right is beautiful. Hope there's enough heat translocation to take care of the extremities.


17 posted on 08/17/2005 8:09:47 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Paradox

I would wear the one on the right, except there would be a big bulge in the middle...


18 posted on 08/17/2005 9:00:28 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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19 posted on 08/17/2005 9:06:29 AM PDT by DM1
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To: Dominick

Beer belly huh?


20 posted on 08/17/2005 9:26:22 AM PDT by fish hawk (hollow points were made to hold pig lard)
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