To: areafiftyone
I know Cindy Sheehan is a meaningless blip here at groupthink HQ FreeRepublic, but out here in the Real World, the media attention she's getting is taking root. This morning, I overheard boobs at our local supermarket talking about her, which means that the security moms are identifying with her. Considering that ALL the polls show popular support for the war is slipping, W's handlers should best pay attention and not dismiss this out of hand.
6 posted on
08/16/2005 1:01:18 PM PDT by
warchild9
To: warchild9
I know Cindy Sheehan is a meaningless blip here at groupthink HQ FreeRepublic, but out here in the Real World, the media attention she's getting is taking root. This morning, I overheard boobs at our local supermarket talking about her, which means that the security moms are identifying with her. Considering that ALL the polls show popular support for the war is slipping, W's handlers should best pay attention and not dismiss this out of hand.
Would FDR put up with this crap in WW2?
To: warchild9
Do you know how many invitations the President of the United States has to turn down every year?! I would guess 99% of those in the REAL WORLD you hear talking about Sheehan don't even know SHE ALREADY MET WITH BUSH ONCE!! How many of them have even done that? I mean, get real.
To: warchild9
Terrorist Supporters for Peace put on a publicity stunt and you think Bush should fall for it.
To: warchild9
"Boobs" at the supermarket don't even vote - they are too busy reading the tabloids. I wouldn't worry - this story is not over.
41 posted on
08/16/2005 1:08:32 PM PDT by
Cathy
To: warchild9
Why would you be a member at a place you call Groupthink HQ? Just curious. Doesn't that make you one of the groupthinkers?
This morning, I overheard boobs at our local supermarket talking about her, which means that the security moms are identifying with her.
So because you personally overheard a couple people talking about her, that means the security moms are identifying her? Really? Your personal experience = The One Reality?
If you want to let emotion and hysteria and polls rule your thinking, fine. But your suggestion that Bush cave to this silly behavior from a woman who denounces the nation's very existence, the president, the war, Israel, and even the invasion of Afghanistan doesn't make me think very much about your logic.
If you overheard a couple people saying Gore or Kerry actually won the election would that mean he did? Just curious, as that's all the "facts" you've presented for your reasoning--an overheard conversation.
48 posted on
08/16/2005 1:09:51 PM PDT by
Darkwolf377
("The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they'll be when you kill them."-Wm. Clayton)
To: warchild9
I know Cindy Sheehan is a meaningless blip here at groupthink HQ FreeRepublic, but out here in the Real World, the media attention she's getting is taking root. This morning, I overheard boobs at our local supermarket talking about her, which means that the security moms are identifying with her. Considering that ALL the polls show popular support for the war is slipping, W's handlers should best pay attention and not dismiss this out of hand.
You're right in that we here tend to downgrade the influence of the MSM. It is still a rough beast that controls the thoughts of many. I'm reposting some commments I made some time ago on another board that I feel are pertinent here:
The MSM justifies its contrarian stance on the grounds that the press is supposed to be the watchdogs of government; that may well be true, but it is painfully clear that they are in fact the attack dogs who would maul government. What a twisted role; in most countries, propaganda would favor the state; here, it opposes it with glee.
I just hope the MSM is aware of the dangers of its chosen path. The abuse of Free Speech has, in the past, lead to the suppression of that right. Socialist sedition has led to ultranational rule that systematically stifles dissent. If they don't get on board and start calling plays down the middle, as they should and are able, they will be mere unwitting harbingers of the end they should fear.
I hope that the blogs' burgeoning role in keeping the media honest will help to preserve Free Speech as it is laid out in the Constitution. However, it is possible that the MSM will successfully label us as ideologues and extremists with "echo chamber" syndrome; that seems to be the tack they have been attempting of late. Plus many Americans are woefully misinformed, or at least underinformed. My family and friends are, for the most part, utterly clueless and to this day rely on the Alphabet Networks for any information they might get. I will often inform them of things that I have learned either on LGF, Free Republic, or Powerline, but they will scoff at these until the alphabets confirm.
Thus my belief is that the blogs will become the founts of knowledge for the superior minorities, whereas the Alphabets and the cables will be primarily responsible for informing the masses. The blogs will serve a guardian function, but they really rely on the competition among the MSM to get any actual police-work done.
If the MSM were to declare its biases openly I would be glad; embrace the Hearstian journalism and eschew the Ochs model we all know is dead. But for the present the MSM wants to wear its cloak of pseudo-objectivity, and unfortunately it will take more than a Rathergate or Easongate to destroy its primacy. Remember, unbalanced oligopoly is even worse than monopoly, for there is the illusion of competition. I feel that is where the state of the media is now.
73 posted on
08/16/2005 1:17:10 PM PDT by
Cyclopean Squid
(Performing at a level just a hair above incompetence.)
To: warchild9
I know Cindy Sheehan is a meaningless blip here at groupthink HQ FreeRepublicMy, my, you certainly how a low opinion of the rest of us Freepers, don't you?
And a mighty damn high opinion of yourself.
Good to know where you stand.
98 posted on
08/16/2005 1:23:19 PM PDT by
Howlin
To: warchild9
W's handlers should best pay attention and not dismiss this out of hand.
You do realize GW Bush is President until Jan 2009 no matter what the "Security moms" are talking about this morning?
Funny thing, it is "Taking root" despite 100% opposition in the New Media to Sheean. Sorry but your perceptions do not match reality.
106 posted on
08/16/2005 1:24:48 PM PDT by
MNJohnnie
( Brick by brick, stone by stone, the Revolution grows)
To: warchild9
No, W's advisers should set up a PR campaign of mothers who are totally opposite of Sheehan who support the President and are not left wing fanatics.
THE GOP is sitting there again twiddling their thumbs while the Dem operatives are getting exactly what they set this up for but NO way should Sheehan get a free ride.
Oh and this is not in the news as much as "YOU" proclaim. A calm simple but articulated pr plan will send Jane Fonda Jr with a bad hairdo back to where she belongs. Another question which has come to mind, are you really a Conservative? I am confused with you talking about "ALL" of the polls. I can make a poll work for my view if the need were to arise. So with all due respect, are you a Conservative?
200 posted on
08/16/2005 1:47:55 PM PDT by
Paige
("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
To: warchild9
I think that Bush would be wise to steer clear of these boobs.
So a couple of people at Wal-Mart are knocking the war, so what.
If I was president I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of showing their @ss while I was at the meeting.
Sheehan and her ilk are psychologically sick and shouldn't be with 5000 feet of the president much less in the same room.
After some of the things this genuine dumb butt has said tells me she has no control over herself.
This old gal is just crazy enough to pull some kind of stupid stunt to show up the president.
What ever Bush does it is a no win situation and the radical MSM and nut job groups are eating it up.
211 posted on
08/16/2005 1:49:57 PM PDT by
OKIEDOC
(There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
To: warchild9
warchild9 wrote:
groupthink HQ FreeRepublic
REPLY:
A person is often known by the company they keep.
SO: Associating with FReepers Good
Associating with wing nut, radical commie leaning anti- American scumbag ACLU types Bad, Real BAD.
266 posted on
08/16/2005 2:13:32 PM PDT by
OKIEDOC
(There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
To: warchild9
This morning, I overheard boobs at our local supermarket talking about her, which means that the security moms are identifying with her. A couple of boobs talking at your supermarket MEANS "security moms are identifying with her"?
This is how you reach your conclusions?
Security moms support the war on terrorism. Any drop in support for the Iraq war is based on the fact Bush has succeeded in making people feel too secure for too long here at home.
The public has too short an attention span and too much garbage from the MSM to remain committed to the war on terror for very long.
This doesn't mean they support the left-wing wacko views of an American hater like Cindy Sheehan. The MSM is hiding the truth about her so most people are simply unable to make an informed decision.
280 posted on
08/16/2005 2:20:36 PM PDT by
Jorge
To: warchild9
W's handlers should best pay attention and not dismiss this out of hand.Based on your logic, we should dig up Ike and DEMAND that he has conversations with the sons whose fathers died in WWII.
329 posted on
08/16/2005 2:50:22 PM PDT by
Cobra64
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