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Fortress Burger King
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | August 16, 2005 | Editorial

Posted on 08/16/2005 11:27:19 AM PDT by Graybeard58

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To: George W. Bush

Mr. President! I am HONORED, sir! LOL
Letting people who have dementia, impaired physical and cognitive abilities and serious health issues related to aging , DRIVE, is madness.
The story is- awww, you can't take away their 'independence'.
As you age NATURE does that. Good eyesight, reflexes and judgement are necessary to control a motor vehicle. Kids don't have it yet- so they can't drive. Senior citizens who are losing it- can't drive. No brainer.
All that would have to be done is a check of the system every month in each state-break it down by city/town/area. Flag the licenses of everyone when they reach 65. At that age, MANDATORY driving tests and physicals required every 6 months. Doctors must clear their health to get a license.
Wrecks like the one this post refers to would automatically void their license . They are a danger to the public and themselves.
After 75 I have a serious problem with ANYONE driving. Age DEBLITATES. You are NOT the driver you were at 50- face it. Get off the road- call a cab.
All I can say is- if anyone in my family is hurt or killed by a 90 year old with a walker who is driving- they won't drive again.


61 posted on 08/16/2005 7:07:48 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Graybeard58

More judiciary out of control. We are all paying a lawyer tax on everything we buy. And it seems to be rising as a percentage of the cost.

Its also a big reason companies locate as much of the business as possible in other countries. The risk of even one mega lawsuit is too great.


62 posted on 08/16/2005 7:14:41 PM PDT by ran15
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To: Phantom Lord
The legal system really has become a lottery. Everyone is suing for anything and everything because the chance of getting paid is worth it.

That is exactly it. When you look at soem of the mega jackpots, a lawyer only has to win even one in his career and he is set for life. Now really he will win more then that, say even 1 in 5, and quickly they can get very wealthy.

Like John Edwards and his 150 million dollars. Which judging by his age, how long he has was in the senate, and how long law school takes, he probably accumulated in about 10 years of lawsuits.

63 posted on 08/16/2005 7:21:00 PM PDT by ran15
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To: Phantom Lord
The prospect of being hit with a 5 or 6 figure bill if you lose will keep many suits from being filed in the first place.

Not just loser-pays, but loser-lawyer-pays too. If he was going to skim off 33% of the award, he ought to have to pay 33% of the costs out of his own bulging pockets. Filth.

-ccm

64 posted on 08/16/2005 10:06:27 PM PDT by ccmay (Question Diversity)
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To: devane617
"Oh My God! That is the woman of my dreams!

LOL!! Don't be too sure. Politically, she's just to the left of Karl Marx! ;o)
65 posted on 08/17/2005 3:58:52 AM PDT by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: Graybeard58

we need to start calling this for what it is...collusion by the American Trial Lawyers with local and state government to violate business.....racketeering. Calls for Federal DOJ investigation.


66 posted on 08/17/2005 4:12:16 AM PDT by mo
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To: AFreeBird

Not very well formatted, which makes it difficult to read. The citations are technical-legal, which is alot of noise, if you are not familiar.

I had the research lying around because I have a case where I represent the owner of an old strip mall, which borders a 2 lane state highway. The lot surface runs right up to the highway, without curbs. Parking spaces are located partially in the "right of way," which is a 13 foot strip outside of the highway surface owned by the state. A driver on the highway fell asleep the morning after a bender and pinned someone against her car, causing horrific injuries. She has argued that we needed to get a permit from the state in order to encroach on the right of way, which the state would have never granted. We say the lot was always like that, and is therefore grandfathered. Aerial photographs arguably show otherwise.

I am trying to say in that brief that the only cause of the accident was the driver and not the condition of the lot. The cases I have collecect nationwide say where there is a drunk, sleeping or completely out of controll driver, that is the sole "proximate cause" of the injuries. So it had alot of similarities with the Burger King story - which is not good for my position in my case.


67 posted on 08/17/2005 6:45:52 AM PDT by frithguild (If I made one mistake, it was that I was too cooperative and waited too long to go on the offensive.)
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Okay, that all makes sense, and conforms with my thoughts on the matter: That unless the building jumped out in front of the vehicle; The person behind the wheel is responsible.
68 posted on 08/17/2005 7:04:46 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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So here is the rub, which is what you really get down to when you start to talk about tort reform.

This woman's medical bills are about $350,000. He car insurance covers only $250,000. She is 28 years old and has only one good arm and a missing leg. So, which is a better source to pay her bills and provide income? A system that stimulates people, upon the pain of having to pay for accidental injuries, to think about and try to prevent even barely forseeable accidents or pure public assistance, i.e. Medicaid and Social Security, where there is no legal stimulus for anybody to give a damn?

You see, in the final analsis, when tort reform precludes recovery for economic damages or pain and suffering, it abrogates personal reponsibility and enlarges the welfare state. The diversionary tactic presently being used for this coup is stirring up hate for lawyers because it is easy to shoot the messenger. Does this seem conservative to you?


69 posted on 08/17/2005 8:31:06 AM PDT by frithguild (If I made one mistake, it was that I was too cooperative and waited too long to go on the offensive.)
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I just put on my Nomex suit. Here is how tort reform abrogates personal responsibiity and expands the welfare state.

I have a case where I represent the owner of an old strip mall, which borders a 2 lane state highway. The lot surface runs right up to the highway, without curbs. Parking spaces are located partially in the "right of way," which is a 13 foot strip outside of the highway surface owned by the state. A driver on the highway fell asleep the morning after a bender and pinned someone against her car, causing horrific injuries. She has argued that we needed to get a permit from the state in order to encroach on the right of way, which the state would have never granted. We say the lot was always like that, and is therefore grandfathered. Aerial photographs arguably show otherwise, so this is an issue to be decided by a jury.

I am trying to get the case dismissed by arguing that the only cause of the accident was the driver and not the condition of the lot. The cases I have collecect nationwide say where there is a drunk, sleeping or completely out of controll driver, that is the sole "proximate cause" of the injuries. So it had alot of similarities with the Burger King story - which is not good for my position in my case.

So here is the rub, which is what you really get down to when you start to talk about tort reform.

This woman's medical bills are about $350,000. He car insurance covers only $250,000. She is 28 years old and has only one good arm and a missing leg. So, which is a better source to pay her bills and provide income? A system that stimulates people, upon the pain of having to pay for accidental injuries, to think about and try to prevent even barely forseeable accidents or pure public assistance, i.e. Medicaid and Social Security, where there is no legal stimulus for anybody to give a damn?

You see, in the final analsis, when tort reform precludes recovery for economic damages or pain and suffering, it abrogates personal reponsibility and enlarges the welfare state. The diversionary tactic presently being used for this coup is stirring up hate for lawyers because it is easy to shoot the messenger.

Does this seem conservative to you?


70 posted on 08/17/2005 8:40:40 AM PDT by frithguild (If I made one mistake, it was that I was too cooperative and waited too long to go on the offensive.)
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