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The Housing Bubble Fact Sheet
Center for Economic and Policy Research ^ | July 2005 | Dean Baker

Posted on 08/15/2005 6:00:40 PM PDT by ex-Texan

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This is a report by a established economic think tank. Just more 'doom and gloom' and 'we are all gonna die' warnings or does the report raise geniune concerns? We report, You decide . . . 'Nuff said. Read more about bubbles?
1 posted on 08/15/2005 6:00:40 PM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan
"Construction of new homes has been going on at a near-record pace over the last few years,"

No kidding. Is that why I can't go for a sunday drive anymore without hitting traffic? Is that why every farm is now a development for homes I can't afford, and all the woods I grew up seeing are now replaced with shopping malls?

"Home construction could easily fall back 40 percent (this was the drop off in the 1981-82 recession), which would imply a direct loss in demand equal to 2 percentage points of GDP."

Good.

2 posted on 08/15/2005 6:05:54 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: ex-Texan

housing bubble, global warming, asbestos tainted breast milk, yada yada yada


3 posted on 08/15/2005 6:09:57 PM PDT by Jaysun (Democrats: We must become more effective at fooling people.)
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To: ex-Texan
Some inconvenient facts left out:

The population is growing

The land mass isn't

Real Property is Real Wealth

Tax cuts increased real income and spending power

Tax cuts have lowered the deficit by $150 billion already

Enough people got burned in the [Clinton] Tech Bubble and learned their lessons

Purveyors of gloom and doom are heavily invested to "short" the markets, betting on self fulfilling prophecy.

All of the slow rabbits have been caught.

4 posted on 08/15/2005 6:10:17 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: ex-Texan
Well Texas has always made people pay their loans off. You couldn't run off and claim I'm broke in that state, but elsewhere in places like CA, people had some limitations on their liability with local bankruptcy laws.

With the new laws taking effect in two months, there's no more chapter 7 to dissolve the loan and debt, you get at best a chapter 11 in the private sector and people will not be as easily able to run from these god awful large loans as they were in the past.

The new higher property taxes alone are mind boggling.

There's going to be some major foreclosures if there is any economic downturn since few carry more than a couple of months wages in their bank accounts.

Any burst of RE or our economy will have major global impact, because there has also been more or less a global RE bubble at the same time.

I think Japan had one burst years ago and it never recovered.
5 posted on 08/15/2005 6:16:35 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ex-Texan

And so the real question is....

Is it time to sell your mortgage REIT stock or buy on the (every day falling) dips?


6 posted on 08/15/2005 6:20:47 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: xcamel

They left out the fact that the "collapsed stock market" has been over 10,000 DOW just about 100% of the time since then.

Some collapse.


7 posted on 08/15/2005 6:21:04 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: ex-Texan
We have become a nation of whiners. At every turn there is Doom and Gloom.

The Baby Boomers legacy is in full swing. Everyone is a victim and everyone has the RIGHT to whatever it is he/she thinks is appropriate. Relativism is in full swing and all that WAS normal no longer is even palatable.

Victims...whiners...womb to the tomb leftists have permeated the MEDIA and the only thing worth reporting is ANYTHING that is NEGATIVE!!!

Her's what I have to say.........We are WINNING the WOT, we have prevented another attack on our nation for 4 years now. Our military has FREED 50 million people from BONDAGE, our deficit is DOWN, the ECONOMY is booming, unemployment is way down, the housing market is just fine, and we still pay less for a gallon of gas than any non arab country on earth and, based on inflation less than we did 30 years ago.

D&G's GO HOME and cry!!!

8 posted on 08/15/2005 6:23:25 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: ex-Texan

Doom and Gloom.

They forget to mention the primary driver in the housing boom, historically low interest rates. I don't believe there will be a bust, rather a slowing of the rate as interest rates continue to be raised buy the Fed.


9 posted on 08/15/2005 6:26:38 PM PDT by WillMalven (It don't matter where you are when "the bomb" goes off, as long as you can say "What was that?")
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The new higher property taxes alone are mind boggling.

That's the real tip of the iceberg. Counties and states are spending these increased taxes like they were carved in stone. When, not if, the downturn occurs, they will have to raise other taxes to make up for the loss. Increased taxes mean people can't spend as much as before and tighten their belts/quit buying. Down we go. How far and how long is the real question.

Between the burst bubble and the high gas prices, I see bad things 'a comin'.

10 posted on 08/15/2005 6:26:43 PM PDT by Oatka (Hyphenated-Americans have hyphenated-loyalties -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: A CA Guy

Japan's problems went far deeper than any bubble.

Those factors still exist to a large extent, and aren't changing very much.


11 posted on 08/15/2005 6:32:11 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Oatka

"I see bad things 'a comin'."

Could be good - " all things work for the best in the best of all possible worlds".


12 posted on 08/15/2005 6:32:13 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: bill1952
They left out the fact that the "collapsed stock market" has been over 10,000 DOW just about 100% of the time since then.

Yes, but the dollar dropped about 30% over that period in time, so your $10,000 Dow Index is only worth about $7,000 in 2000 dollars, and the Dow would have to be up around 14,000 to match its 2001 value.

13 posted on 08/15/2005 6:33:00 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Feelings are not a tool of cognition, therefore they are not a criterion of morality." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Oatka
Forget about the more likely scenerio?

Raising taxes doesn't work.
They will restrict programs rather than raise taxes.

Hell, here in Florida they can't raise taxes, and when those blue states try, we just have to buld more house for the refugees. - And there are a LOT.

14 posted on 08/15/2005 6:38:13 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Mr. Jeeves
LOL! I see that you aren't playing with your own money. Are you kidding?

Since then, the market has made me wealthy. Spell compunded earnings :^)


15 posted on 08/15/2005 6:41:34 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

Oops! Compounded earnings. ;^)


16 posted on 08/15/2005 6:42:25 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: A CA Guy
I think Japan had one burst years ago and it never recovered.

Japan has two and half times more the trade surplus of China. The Japanese economic ministry has done a wonderful PR job in creating the image that the Japanese economy is in the tank because of China. It isn't! They are doing well because of good strategic planning. Japanese CEOs think longer term than American CEOs

17 posted on 08/15/2005 6:49:04 PM PDT by GWB00
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To: ex-Texan

The main reason house prices have risen is the low cost of mortgages.

And since no one knows for sure why mortgage rates are now so low,

No one can say mortgage rates will not one day, even one day soon, skyrocket.

And when those rates go up, down will go home prices--

And down every place where people take mortgages to buy houses.


18 posted on 08/15/2005 6:57:51 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: bill1952
You picked the wrong stock market. The collapse was in high tech stocks and internet stocks. Have you seen this graph yet?

There is another graph on my FR page that is worth looking at in case you're interested.

19 posted on 08/15/2005 7:04:34 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: Oatka
I'm with you in thinking the same thing.

I think the next administration gets to deal with a new whole set of problems.

I think most of these are being caused by inventive financing which somehow qualify a family earning 50k for a 600k loan.
20 posted on 08/15/2005 7:07:46 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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