Firefighters worked Sunday near the tail of the Helios Air Boeing 737 that crashed and broke apart in the mountains near Grammatikos, Greece.
Posted on 08/15/2005 6:06:27 AM PDT by OESY
I think I heard this a.m. that the bodies were frozen solid?
That's what they reported on Fox News this morning.
Did anyone blame Bush yet?
Those air bags/mask that drop down during lost of pressure will not work properly above 30,000 ft. A little inside info the guy said.
Can someone tell me how the bodies can freeze solid in such a short time?
Frozen SOLID? A human body, even a dead one, holds a LOT of heat energy. Think of how long it takes a 4-lb. roast to freeze in a freezer.
I can believe the passengers froze to death, i.e. died of hypothermia, but if they're frozen SOLID it's time to call in Agent Mulder and Dr. Who to investigate.
Guess I better carry my own Oxygen supply and stay at a Holiday Inn Express.
That's what was being reported.
Above 30,000 feet the outside temp is about 55 below. If that was being circulated through the cabin it doesn't take long. They may have even been freeze dried.
When I traveled last week, the reported outside temperature at 32,000 ft was -50F.
...I'm bringing a jacket next time.
That can't be right.
Some things here just do not compute. We will have to wait for the experts to sort out things.
He probably meant they wouldn't work if the cabin pressure was lowered far enough to be equivalent to the air pressure at 30,000 feet - but depressurization is usually gradual, not instantaneous, unless there is a big hole in the plane.
I'm sure there must be a Freepert, Freeper Expert, that might know for sure?
And wouldn't everything not nailed down get sucked out of the hole?
Not necessarily, I think. If the heat system to the cabin failed, the temperature in the cabin would drop very fast, epecially if the pressurization ws still operating. The outside air at 35,000 ft can be -50 degrees, easily.
Yes, and the F-16 pilots didn't say anything about seeing a hole. Sounds more like a pressurization malfunction coupled with an oxygen system malfunction - an unusual combination that was probably the result of shoddy maintenance by a third-rate discount airline.
Maybe they don't supply enough O2 flow if the cabin pressure is above 30,000 feet?
The more I hear about this accident, the weirder it gets, and the less I think terrorism was involved. No pilot in the cockpit, co-pilot unconscious or dead, reports of two other people in the cockpit (passengers? attendants?) before the plane crashed. Odd.
One other thing I'm wondering about is how far away from Athens the plane was when it crashed. If it ended up like Payne Stewart's Learjet and crashed after running out of fuel, seems to me it would've gone a pretty good ways beyond Greece if it was flying on autopilot. I wonder if passengers or crew went up front and tried to "fly" it and wound up accidentally crashing it instead. Or maybe it wasn't on autopilot and the crew was hand-flying it. Once they start deciphering the recorders, that's when the answers will come out.
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