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Tweaked hybrid gets 80 miles per gallon
LA Daily News ^ | 8/14/05 | Tim Molloy

Posted on 08/14/2005 2:26:28 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

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To: BurbankKarl

When they come out with a nice sized powerful 4x4 then I will jump on board. Until then I just have to deal with my 350 GMC Sierra. You do what you gotta do.


61 posted on 08/14/2005 3:58:05 PM PDT by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: BushCountry
I want a solar collector roof and hood, exhaust and radiator heat to power a light weight Stirling engine generators to re-charge these batteries at rest. Keep the plug-in adaptor for emergencies.

How much energy and raw mateials does it take to make those things compared to total energy savings projected over the life of the vehicle?
62 posted on 08/14/2005 3:58:08 PM PDT by Tailback (USAF distinguished rifleman badge #300, German Schutzenschnur in Gold)
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To: BurbankKarl

When they finally build a hybrid with a V-8 Hemi, than maybe I'll reconsider.


63 posted on 08/14/2005 3:59:34 PM PDT by Clemenza (Intelligent Design Isn't Very Intelligent)
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To: BushCountry

How much are you willing to pay?


64 posted on 08/14/2005 3:59:41 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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To: SampleMan
In 1989 I drove a Ford Tempo from Houston to Baton Rouge and got over 45 mpg. Drove behind an 18wheeler all the way. BTW when I went to school not only I had to walk uphill both ways, I also had to walk through 10 ft of snow the whole school year.
65 posted on 08/14/2005 4:00:55 PM PDT by 05 Mustang GT Rocks
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To: DB
Here in California power is more like 14 cents a kW

So that gives the car an extra 2 KWH of power.

I'd say the guy is lying, trying to raise money for him to pi$$ away.

66 posted on 08/14/2005 4:04:50 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: John Jamieson

Stirling engines would be cheap to produce in mass quanities and really don't require that much material. Every new technology is expensive, but once it is accepted and mass produced it becomes relatively inexpensive.

My response was to all the negative comments. You can have a stronger lightweight hybrid car using new (or soon to be invented) composites. These cars would could zip along rather nicely, charge superfast using nano-technology batteries, and with solar powered Stirling engines not need to be plugged in for trips to work, mall, and food shopping.

The future is coming whether we like it or not.


67 posted on 08/14/2005 4:10:53 PM PDT by BushCountry (They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong.)
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To: BurbankKarl
talked about this on a earier threadhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1462760/posts?page=83#83

looked up this today,thought it was cool
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4076811.stm
if their not lying about the 300Hp claim,steam might be the way to go

68 posted on 08/14/2005 4:12:39 PM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: Charlespg

talked about this on a earier thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1462760/posts?page=83#83
looked up this today,thought it was cool
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4076811.stm
if their not lying about the 300Hp claim,steam might be the way to go


69 posted on 08/14/2005 4:13:57 PM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: John Jorsett
The electricity that's charging those extra batteries has to come from somewhere. It's getting the standard Prius 50 mpg from the gasoline, and any extra mileage is coming from a power plant

Electricity plants are several times more efficient at energy usage a car. That being said, the charging of batteries to drive a car has it's own inefficiencies. I'm not sure whether this technique is more or less efficient in the end.

Although if we got the power from nukes, then we may not actually have better energy efficiency, we may though reduce oil usage.

70 posted on 08/14/2005 4:14:25 PM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: The Coopster
Rather than wait for the public to buy a more efficient fleet of cars. 20 years? Maybe it would be easier to change the world's oil economics. Gasoline and Diesel have been made from coal for over a 100 years. Current crude equivalent cost is about $35 a barrel. Sasol (SSF) and Headwaters (HW) are the two best stock plays to hedge oil prices. Both have doubled in the last two years.

Google "Karrick" and "LTC" for a historical view.
71 posted on 08/14/2005 4:15:13 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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To: John Jamieson
I can't play your game by discussing a 5-year old article.
Most critics don't have a clue what they're talking about.

How many "D" size batteries do you think a teenager goes through simply for entertainment in 10 years?

150?

That the size and number of "cells" in my 2003 Prius.
The current cost of replacement is 60% less than the numbers listed in the article, and dropping.

Time to stop being silly.

72 posted on 08/14/2005 4:15:44 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: narby

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=4297


73 posted on 08/14/2005 4:17:35 PM PDT by BushCountry (They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Tips for better gas mileage:

1. Take care of your vehicle. Clean oil, fresh spark plugs and a well-tuned motor are more efficient than a run-down system.

2. Check your air filter. If dirty or old, replace it.

3. Run your air conditioner less.

4. Use the correct gasoline. Most cars run well on an octane rating of 87. Mostly it's just high-performance and turbocharged engines that need higher octane. If your engine is pinging on acceleration or up hills (sounds like shaking uncooked popcorn in a glass jar) use a higher octane gasoline. Check the owner's manual for your vehicle's requirements.

5. Keep your tires inflated properly. Incorrect inflation leads to rolling resistance from the tires. Most car tires should be inflated to 32 PSI.

6. Drive at an even speed, whenever possible. It's more efficient than rushing to the next traffic light and then stopping.

7. Use cruise control on the highway.

8. Choose the route with the flattest terrain and fewest stops, if you can.

9. Drive on highways instead of city streets, where practical. A vehicle moving at constant speed is more efficient than one that slows and speeds up, stops and starts.

10. Do all your driving errands at once. A cold engine consumes more gas than a warmed up engine.

11. Read the label the federal government requires on new cars the next time you shop for a vehicle. It tells a model's estimated city and highway mileage so that you can compare mileage figures for all the vehicles you consider.

12. Eliminate unnecessary cargo. Hauling heavy loads in the trunk or inside the car will lower your gas mileage.

13. Drive at 55 MPH. It saves gas.

14. Keep track of your car's mileage: if it changes drastically, follow the above steps and then go see your mechanic if you can't figure out why.


74 posted on 08/14/2005 4:18:31 PM PDT by Darnright ( Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before)
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To: BushCountry
Tell you what, You invest in Sterling engines and I'll invest in coal liquefaction. Lets get together in 5 years and the winner buys.
75 posted on 08/14/2005 4:19:23 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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To: Darnright
8. Choose the route with the flattest terrain and fewest stops, if you can.

Not true for hybrids.

Driving up and down San Joaquin Valley, average MPG: 48
Driving over the mountains to San Francisco and back, average MPG: 54.
Consistently. Can't explain it.

76 posted on 08/14/2005 4:21:29 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: John Jamieson

Stirling engines are making a comeback. LOL

http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/003285.html


77 posted on 08/14/2005 4:21:59 PM PDT by BushCountry (They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong.)
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To: John Jamieson

I believe everything they've built in the last 20 or so years as been natural gas. They've converted many to natural gas as well.


78 posted on 08/14/2005 4:22:49 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: BurbankKarl

As long as it has very good acceleration and can tow a trailer, I'm all for it. I also need to know the total costs vs. mpg.


79 posted on 08/14/2005 4:24:23 PM PDT by RightWinger
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To: Publius6961
Well my most recent catalog is actually expired in June 2005, but Panasonic NMH D cells 6.5ah are listed at $1500 per 100 or $1524.00 per 100 for the solder tab version. Toyota is also going to charge for their neat battery pack and they will probably insist on a profit.

I don't let my kids play with these batteries.
80 posted on 08/14/2005 4:28:40 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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