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Two people seen trying to take control of doomed Cypriot plane
Hindustan Times ^ | August 14, 2005

Posted on 08/14/2005 1:48:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Publius6961
With the right mix of passengers (assuming no foul "muslim" intent) a rough landing by unpracticed civilians is always possible (beats the alternative).

Anybody who has a recent copy of Flight Simulator knows that it would certainly be trivial for ground control personnel to verbally walk a non-pilot through a bit of autopilot programming and have the plane fly itself to the best airport.

They almost wouldn't even have to sit in the pilot's seat to do it, although it would be much more comfortable than leaning over the throttles.

Having said that, I'm certain that the problem was at a much higher level with limited breathable air/oxygen having taken down the pilots in the first place.

But contrary to all of the Hollyweird "pilots are dead, passenger/stew has to land the plane" movies, the new aircraft can literally be programmed to do about everything except taxi to the correct gate after touchdown. And I'm not denigrating the skills or needs of the pilots, just that the avionics and control has become so sophisticated that the planes can literally "fly themselves"- with the proper info input.

Maybe some of the real pilot FReepers can lend their input here.

I was told by a commercial pilot many years ago that, all things being equal, you could tell when the computer landed the plane and when the pilot did... the computer flew the plane onto the ground resulting in a rougher landing; the pilot would flare out and make a soft touchdown, softer than the computer's. YMMV, of course, depending upon many variables.

61 posted on 08/14/2005 6:07:14 PM PDT by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: All

question to any pilots: If the boeing autopilot is turned on, can the plane be controlled by the "hand controlls" or are they locked out?


62 posted on 08/14/2005 6:07:32 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: nickcarraway

Maybe it was shot down....that would explain all the misinformation.....


63 posted on 08/14/2005 6:20:35 PM PDT by thinking
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To: cripplecreek
.. there really does need to be a way to take control of these planes and land them from the ground.

Sounds like something worth looking into. And if the plane is taken over by terrorists, you could override their ability to fly the plane and fly it from the ground.

64 posted on 08/14/2005 6:36:51 PM PDT by virgil
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To: longtermmemmory

My wife was born in Limassol
presently in South Cyprus
but was forced to move north
during the events of 1974.
Fortunately now the people can move
relatively freely
from one side of the island
to the other.
When we return to Cyprus
in the summer
we visit both north and south
and find them both pleasant.


65 posted on 08/14/2005 9:56:59 PM PDT by Allan
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To: virgil

> And if the plane is taken over by terrorists, you
> could override their ability to fly the plane and
> fly it from the ground.

And if the override system itself is hacked, then the
cutthroat cultists don't even need to be on the plane.

Benefits.
Hazards.
Both abound everywhere you look.


66 posted on 08/14/2005 9:58:21 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: nickcarraway

Must have been two little ole ladies who had somehow escaped the inspection line at the airport. Must not profile donchaknow! Sarcasm aside, if this was Islamic terrorists , which I suspect it was, we will never be told.


67 posted on 08/14/2005 10:01:56 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftist=Anti American!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

did it have a depressurized inncident that led to a crash? A lot of fail safes must fail for this to happen. I would imagine they didnt last year. why not?


68 posted on 08/14/2005 10:04:36 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Boundless

Nothing changes if you don't conceptualize.


69 posted on 08/15/2005 4:26:19 PM PDT by virgil
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