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Posted on 08/14/2005 1:25:44 PM PDT by adam_az
Edited on 08/14/2005 1:28:27 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
Live thread for posting breaking news about the Gaza Explulsion which is set to begin within the hour...
More Arab garbage ?
Arabs = garbages, this what you say, frog ?
""Al Qaeda is setting up camp in the Gaza, too" "
You don't think that AQ are trash?
"I think that the frog wanted to describe not only Al Qaeda members, that's why I asked."
As for the rest of the Gazan Arabs... considering that the vast majority of them support Hamas and would like to see Israel wiped off the face of the planet, I'm going to dissapoint you and say that the vast majority of them are garbage, too.
The Pali's are now reaping the benefits of incrementalism. Now they will have the Israeli settlements as a prize. Before that, Israel pulled out of Southern Lebanon. Will the Golan Heights be returned to Syria at some point? Then will come Jerusalem, where, in seeking the ever elusive "peace", Israeli's will give the Pali's some chunk of Jerusalem in another appeasement move to buy that ever elusive and never to be gained "peace". If this path of slowly whittling away at Israel's borders continues, there will come a day when there will be no Israel left. Or, what little is left, will have to use the nuclear option, as there will no longer be any other options to use. And of course the USA under Bush, or whomever becomes the next President will continue to sell Israel down the river by continuing to push for the Oslo accords being fulfilled, thus sealing Israel's fate. This whole situation makes me almost physically ill. The stupidity of it all.
Thanks for those links--amazing to see the Western Wall live.
It looks like the Palestinians can hold off killing Jews for awhile because the Jews are killing Jews for them! ...just like the USA helped Albanian muslims kill SERB Catholics in Kosovo. What a world we live in!
Islamic Jihad Drills for Combat Determined to keep their weapons and their right to defend Gaza, the Islamic Jihad in Khan Younis on August 13, 2005 drills for readiness.
Islamic Jihad Drills for Combat
An Islamic Jihad commander in Khan Younis on August 13, 2005 briefs his men on the challenges they will face with the coming Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.
-Eric
By Ze'ev Schiff
There are two big questions concerning the army, police and Shin Bet Security Services on the eve of the withdrawal from Gush Katif and northern Samaria. One is whether a Jewish extremist will fire at Israel's security forces, while the second is whether Hamas and other armed organizations will do the same.
At first glance, there is no direct connection between these two questions, but the security forces are preparing themselves for both scenarios. According to military experts, the number of Israeli extremists liable to use weapons against the security forces who come to evict them is relatively small - 100 at most. Thousands of people who are opposed to the disengagement plan have infiltrated the Gaza Strip in preparation for the pullout, but most, if not all, are considered unlikely to take up arms. Many of these infiltrators comprise entire families.
The dozens of armed extremists have been known to the police, by name, for some time. And the assumption is that there are others the security forces do not know, as was the case with Eden Natan Zada, the soldier who deserted his unit and murdered four people in Shfaram 10 days ago. Natan Zada had told friends at the West Bank settlement of Tapuah that he had intended to do something in Gush Katif.
The security forces have no knowledge of any plans by extremists to use weapons, but they believe it is possible that such an incident could occur due to an impulsive decision or spontaneous response to a situation.
Regarding the Palestinians, the calculations are different. Palestinian Authority officials have told the Americans and Israelis they have convinced Hamas not to open fire during the disengagement, and the PA is committed to deploying forces on the ground to back them up. So far, the PA has enlisted about 1,500 troops, including police officers (not 5,000, as the authority's interior minister, Nasser Yusuf, has promised), some of whom are on leave at any given time. When PA officials say they will prevent anyone from shooting at Israel, they mean they will do their best to prevent major attacks such as the firing of Qassam rockets and mortars.
The assumption is that Hamas, the Palestinians' leading and largest terror organization, will avoid firing while Israeli citizens are being evacuated from the Gaza Strip. But as soon as Israel Defense Forces troops are the only ones left in the area - soldiers are expected to remain in the Gaza Strip for about a month after civilian evacuations are completed to demolish the abandoned homes and other structures - the group is expected to change its policy. Hamas plans on using arms against the IDF to emphasize that Israel is withdrawing from Gaza under fire, and underline the Palestinian victory achieved by Hamas.
Israel's policy as outlined by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is to suspend the disengagement if civilians are fired upon during the evacuation and allow the army to respond. The question is whether this policy also applies to the use of arms against the IDF once the civilians have been removed.
A large percentage of the Israeli population is against the expulsion, which explains why Sharon never put it up for a national referendum."The cabinet just voted 16-4 to continue with it. One of the four was Limnor Livnat, who at one point was personally targetted by some of the radicals for insufficient zeal.
-Eric
email from Protest Warrior
ISLAM ASCENDANT
Today marks Tisha B'Av, a date noteworthy in Jewish history as it was this very day that both Temples were destroyed in Jerusalem, the first by the Babylonians in 586 B.C., the second by the Romans in 70 A.D. Two millennia later and it appears we'll be able to attach another tragedy to this date, the forced removal of all Jews from Gaza, set to commence this week.
This small piece of land has always been barren and squalid until 1967 when after the Arabs failed in yet another imperialist attempt to destroy the Jewish state, Israel took it over. Since then 8,000 brave pioneers have resided in a portion of Gaza. They settled in on infertile beach sand and were told by everyone that nothing had ever grown there and nothing ever would. Instead, what they accomplished was an agricultural miracle. Utilizing advanced technology which they invented, they made the sand blossom and built greenhouses that produce chemical-free bug-free organic produce that is shipped around the world and renown for its incredible quality and taste.
Now if a Muslim country had taken over this land they would have expelled all the 'infidels'. But the Jewish settlers came with garlands of peace, hope and opportunity. The greenhouses they built employ Palestinians at wages far higher than they would make under any Arab dictatorship, and have forged true bonds of harmony and friendship:
Saed, a 42-year-old greenhouse worker who commutes every day from Khan Yunis, said, "For me, it's a really good life. I make enough money to feed my family. I am close with my bosses, who treat me with respect. I don't want to be out of a job." Fhaud, 63, a greenhouse supervisor, said he has grown attached to his Jewish employers. "I've known my boss since he was a kid and I worked for his father," he said. "Some workers here have known three generations of Jewish families. I was invited to all the bar mitzvahs and weddings." Mahmoud, who works in the same greenhouse, said, "I don't want the disengagement to go through. Not just because I'll lose a job, but because I'll lose friends."
So Jews and Arabs working together, turning the desert green. In a sane world we would be commending these Jewish settlers for sowing real seeds of peace. Of course, this is not a sane world, for next week all this has to be dismantled and turned over to Islamic terrorists in the name of 'peace'. For the first time in world history a country is going to forcibly remove its own people and give land over to its sworn enemies.
So now that the poor Palestinians of Gaza are to be freed from their 'occupation', are they rejoicing in their independence and making plans to plow their energies into building communities and farms and schools and infrastructure? Are they preparing to serve as a model to the world that a country under Islamic law with a fresh start and no colonial 'imperialists' can succeed? Are they ready to turn their state into a free and prosperous Palestinian country?
At a mass rally in Gaza City last Thursday, some 10,000 Palestinians danced, sang, and chanted, "Today Gaza, tomorrow Jerusalem." Jamal Abu Samhadaneh, commander of Gaza's Popular Resistance Committees, announced on Sunday, "We will move our cells to the West Bank" and warned that "The withdrawal will not be complete without the West Bank and Jerusalem." The Palestinian Authority's Ahmed Qurei also asserts, "Our march will stop only in Jerusalem." Meanwhile Hamas has officially announced that they will continue its war to destroy Israel by launching Qassam rockets at Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and communities in Judea and Samaria. We're sure they'll be making full use of their new seaport to import weapons and munitions to keep the carnage coming.
What's becoming clear is how the religion of Islam is addicted to war and mayhem. Not a radical minority, not a rogue sect, but its very essence is about submission and sacrifice and proving your worth by worshipping death in this life to gain a paradise of orgies and drunkenness. Their entire history is of warfare, and any accomplishments of their so-called Golden Age has been proven to be merely parasitic off the cultures they've conquered and reduced to dhimmi servitude. That every country under sharia is corrupt, belligerent, desolate and barbaric obviously gives them no pause, except to constantly drive them into further psychotic rage as they refuse to ever accept any responsibility for their conditions. They are akin to the powers in Orwell's 1984; there must always be an enemy. It's no surprise that women are treated like property in these countries as that's the only way Muslim men can feed their egos, to dominate others rather than ever actually produce something.
What a victory for these people that their terrorism has paid off, with Western intellectuals cheering them on. You can only wonder how many youth who have been brainwashed from birth in the madrassas and draped in their culture of bomb-worship and martyrdom will join the global jihad as it now appears they actually have a chance to win. While our soldiers at Guantanamo have to wear rubber gloves when handing out Korans, it's pretty reasonable for them to conclude that the West is ready to fall and the global caliphate is a real possibility. Israel's retreat from Gaza will certainly do wonders for their recruiting.
We can only presume how the leftist media establishment will cover this sorry affair, so we're making available the Gush Katif section of our film Entering Zion available for free download. You can get a last look at the communities and greenhouses before they are destroyed. At least we were able to record them for posterity.
To see the video, go to http://www.protestwarrior.com/newsletters/08_14_05.php and scroll down.
We'd like to offer congratulations to all the liberal, progressive humanitarian women's rights environmentalist anti-war protesters who have made ending the 'occupation' of Gaza a top priority. What was an oasis of life is now to become a zone of death. You should be proud.
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Speaking of those humanitarians, we have two new PW videos showing what an unprogressive attitude they have towards dissent.
Operation Enemy Enlightenment was a little street rumble between the Foothill Technology High School chapter of PW and some 'progressive' protesters, culminating in one of them admitting his desire for Communism in America to rise again. And over in Amsterdam, Dutch-PW protested an anti-Bush rally with the predictable results of having their signs ripped down. We're sure the EU will be prosecuting the protesters for hate crimes.
To see the debriefing and video for Operation Enemy Enlightenment go to http://hq.protestwarrior.com/?page=/featured/fths/fths.php
To see the debriefing and video for Operation Stop Bush go to http://hq.protestwarrior.com/?page=/featured/International/Dutch2/netherlands_pw.php
We'd also like to call your attention to a counter-protest to ANSWER's mass rally this September 24th in Washington D.C. Aptly titled Operation Defend the White House, PW will be there with other groups to counter the radical mob that is showing up demanding the President's removal from office. For details go to http://www.defendthewhitehouse.org
The way things are going in the Middle East, we may soon have to accept the reality that the global alliance of Islamic Jihad and the Socialist Left will not allow freedom to be vindicated. With Iran and North Korea building nuclear bomb factories, China on its way to becoming a military superpower, and Russia falling back towards authoritarianism, a weak and depleted United States will only be a recipe for these states to wage global war. The time is upon us to break out the Sun Tzu and bring the troops home. We've removed the WMD threat of their megalomaniac tyrant and given the people of Iraq control of their own destiny. It's now up to them if they want to be free or be another Islamic slave state.
It could have gone differently, but that wouldn't have been good for the peace protesters, for with all the coming war they're helping to bring about by providing intellectual cover to Islam and weakening us from the inside, they'll have plenty of opportunities to engage in their love of politics and protesting. True peace and liberty would be a disaster for these people, they would have nothing to rally against and would lose their justification for being. That may be the silver lining of the past two years, in that at least those with open eyes can see the true nature of evil, the pathological and inexhaustible efforts those who hate the good will go to destroy any standards of objective morality. At this point we can only sit back and watch with detached horror at what they have wrought, and what is to come.
-Alan and Kfir
Prayers for my Israeli brothers. This reminds me of the forced evacuations by the Nazis, who often used Jewish police to do their dirty work.You think the fact that their destination is somewhat different might make your metaphor a tad ridiculous?
-Eric
I dont know the current tensions between the Israelies and their government but does anyone think if the gaza evacuation ends in many dead, is there a possibility of a Israelie revolution ousting sharon?The IDF is highly professional and is acting with restraint. The Yamit evacuation was pulled off with zero casualties, despite the presence of numerous zealots.
The wild card is the settler activists. Shin Bet seems to be particularly worried about the possible presence of Natan-Zada types among the infiltrators.
-Eric
Those guys have done some pretty good stuff.
Walking up to a group of 5 protestors and saying "You guys lost the election, why are you still protesting." is not one of them.
Adam - Great post regarding Palestinian combatants and Alouette - EXCELLENT graphic, saving that one.
Yeah, all the Labor Ministers who want to retreat under fire to the '48 cease fire line Auschwitz borders and half of Likud that are Sharon cronies. Not a surprise.
Sorry for butting in, but I largely agree with your point of view.
Then again, it can be argued that the Lebanon withdrawal was the main catalyst for Intifada II.
What will this withdrawal spawn?
Israel was IMHO left with no good options, and chose (I hope and pray) the lesser of alternative evils.
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