Really? This could get interesting then.
Breitweiser : If I could just jump in for a second. I particularly would like to ask Roger directly if he had known about this operation, clearly he and Richard Clarke were in a position at the time that this operation would have been put in place to know of such a thing, and Roger, I'm just wondering, did you know of this?
Of course Cressey said he didn't know anything! What a joke! But Ms. Breitweiser was tough.