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Able Danger -- now they tell us
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | 08/14/05 | Jack Kelly OP/ED

Posted on 08/14/2005 1:44:29 AM PDT by smoothsailing

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41 posted on 08/14/2005 5:47:40 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (<><)
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To: smoothsailing
I pray that this story has legs and will not die a quiet 'buried-on-page~D-19' death.

However, knowing the Agenda and the Players in the US media, I'm not holding my breath.

Thanks for posting.

42 posted on 08/14/2005 5:49:23 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!)
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To: Carolinamom
"The Jersey widows should redirect their invective and to the clinton administration which caused the deaths of their husbands."


Liberals use and abuse the emotions, and since there has been complete silence from these who demanded answers, sadly exposes this more about promoting a leftist agenda, and protectionism of Clintonism at its very base.

Hillry voted for action in Iraq, yet we see none of these that appear to be mouthpieces for terrorism camped outside her digs.

Could it be Hillry plans to present herself as the "uniter" and President Bush, Republicans as the dividers?

This would not be going on if it did not serve Hillry's purpose. There is an expected result of this hyped "sorrow" and somebody has plans to take advantage.

I think since liberals create misery, demanded shared misery, this is about reinstating the draft.

Would a president Hillry give time to one who disagreed with her, I think not, they would be jailed.
43 posted on 08/14/2005 6:00:55 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: smoothsailing
Thanks to Curt Weldon the public will know what Freepers have known for some time: that the 9/11 Commission was covering for the Clinton administration's "mistakes". The Clintons themselves like to call such things "bureacratic SNAFUs".

The big sales job now is to make sure we think all that happened was that some things got overlooked, somehow just slipped through the cracks.

But the Clinton administration specifically and actively HELPED these guys and PROTECTED them.

A year before the 9/11 attacks, Able Danger identified hijack leader Mohamed Atta and the other members of his cell. But Clinton administration officials stopped them -- three times -- from sharing this information with the FBI.

Now the Commission is lying about being told, getting caught lying, changing their lies... Also they first lied that this protection was done because Atta had a green card, but that was weak enough to draw fire so they changed that to a new lie about why they had to protect Atta and his boys.

This reminds me of the three little Aruban creeps who lied and were proven to be lying so they changed to new lies and then lied about why they lied to start with.

Yes, the 24/7 coverage of Aruba is, along with the crackpot mutha's triumph in the sun at Crawford, a media distraction from real earth shaking historic news.

44 posted on 08/14/2005 6:01:06 AM PDT by Sal (Three of the time bombs Podesta bragged about may have been delivered by 747.)
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To: SueRae

Commission Members
___________________

Thomas H. Kean

Richard Ben-Veniste

Fred F. Fielding

Jamie S. Gorelick

Slade Gorton

Lee H. Hamilton

Bob Kerrey

John F. Lehman

Timothy J. Roemer

James R. Thompson

Commission Staff
__________________

Philip Zelikow, Executive Director

Christopher A Kojm, Deputy Executive Director

Daniel Marcus, General Counsel

Joanne M. Accolla
Alexis Albion
Scott H. Allan, Jr.
John A. Azzarello
Caroline Barnes
Warren Bass
Ann M. Bennett
Mark S. Bittinger
Madeleine Blot
Antwion M. Blount
Sam Brinkley
Geoffrey Scott Brown
Daniel Byman
Dianna Campagna
Samuel M.W. Caspersett
Melissa A. Coffey
Lance Cole
Marco A. Cordero
Jajesh De
George W. Delgrosso
Gerald L. Dillingham
Thomas E. Dowling
Steven M. Dunne
Thomas R. Eldridge
Alice Falk
John J. Farmer, Jr.
Alvin S. Felzenberg
Larry M. Fenner
Susan Ginsburg
T. Graham Giusti
Nicole Marie Grandriomo
Douglas N. Greenburg
Barbara A. Grewe
Elinore Flynn Hartz
Leonard R. Hawley
I. Christine Healey
Karen Heitkotter
Walter T. Hemplel II
C. Michael Hurley
Dana J. Hyde
John W. Ivicic
Michael N. Jacobson
Hunter W. Jamerson
bonnie D. Jenkins
Reginald F. Johnson
R. William Johnstone
Stephanie I. Kaplan
Miles I. Kara, Sr.
Janice I. Kephart
Hyon Kim
Katarzyna Kozaczok
Gordon Nathaniel Lederman
Daniel J. Leopold
Sarah Webb Linden
Douglas J. MacEachin
Ernest R. May
Joseph McBride
James Miller
Kelly Moore
Charles M. Pereira
John Roth
Peter Rundlet
Lloyd D. Salvetti
Kevin J. Scheid
Kevin Shaeffer
Tracy J. Shycoff
Dietrich I. Snell
Jonathan DeWees Stull
Lisa Marie Sullivan
Quinn John Tamm, Jr.
Catharine S. Taylor
Yoel Tobin
Emily Landis Walker
Garth Wermter
Serena B. Wille
Peter Yerkes


45 posted on 08/14/2005 6:01:29 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: smoothsailing

Google News still has nothing on this except the usual VRWC rags - and other "nut-job" outlets. I wish this article was front and center of every household's major breadwinner in "flyover" country as he leans down to look at the Sunday paper. There just might be some pitchforks at the doors of congress... But, alas, I can only dream.


46 posted on 08/14/2005 6:11:25 AM PDT by Harrius Magnus
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To: smoothsailing
Outrageous.

It will be interesting to see the reaction to this by the administration.

47 posted on 08/14/2005 6:17:59 AM PDT by iconoclast (Wastin' away again in hearts-and-minds'ville.)
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To: smoothsailing
once a best seller and hailed by the news media as the definitive word on the subject, must now be moved to the fiction shelves.

like so much of what the MSM hails. Why? Because it's in the advertising business. Veracity is strictly coincidental and, as this demonstrates, often unwanted.

***

In a way, this is reassuring. US Intelligence didn't drop the ball. It was kicked out of their hands at gunpoint. Only a top level government official could prevent us from defending ourselves.

The clinton legacy -- bringing you back into the dark ages.

48 posted on 08/14/2005 6:22:08 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (see my FR page for a link to the tribute to Terri Schaivo, a short video presentation.)
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To: smoothsailing

The government was quick to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the Wilson-Plame-CIA affair. Where is the investigation to determine who's at fault here? More than three thousand Americans are dead because government officials dropped the ball.


49 posted on 08/14/2005 6:26:02 AM PDT by KenmcG414
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To: smoothsailing
"They were stopped because the lawyers at that time in 2000 told them Mohamed Atta had a green card" -- he didn't -- "and they could not go after someone with a green card," said Rep. Curt Weldon, the Pennsylvania Republican who brought the existence of Able Danger to light.

So, they really thought this guy was a threat, but they put it all in a filing cabinet and forgot about it because...they were told he had a green card? And they accepted this? In the face of evidence of a threat to the citizens of the US, they just dropped it? Hell--freaking--OOO!

Like one guy couldn't call up is golf buddy at FBI and say, "hey, I've got a live one for you?"

50 posted on 08/14/2005 6:31:50 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (see my FR page for a link to the tribute to Terri Schaivo, a short video presentation.)
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To: smoothsailing
Gore-lick and crew should be arrested for treason.
51 posted on 08/14/2005 6:35:27 AM PDT by mict42
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To: iconoclast
It will be interesting to see the reaction to this by the administration.

It will be depressing. The Bush administration will do nothing to encourage this story to come to light and credibility. The Commission is denying it, the media is discounting it---and for sure somebody is digging frantically into Curt Weldon's grammar school records, just in case.

52 posted on 08/14/2005 6:38:01 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: KC Burke
Al Felzenberg said no reference was made to it in the final report because "it was not consistent with what the commission knew about Atta's whereabouts before the attacks," the AP reported.

How very interesting..
Another posted article here on FR noted that the commission's disclaimer was that Atta did not recieve his visa until MAY 2000, and "couldn't have been in the country before then..
The relevant data discussed by the officer showed Atta to be a member of an al-Qaida cell in New York City from February to April 2000, the statement said. But the commission knew that according to travel and immigration records, Atta first obtained a U.S. visa on May 18, 2000, and first arrived in the United States on June 3, 2000, the statement said.
9/11 Commissioners Defend Intel Omission

Yet, in THIS ARTICLE, there is a statement "from the commission" saying:
The CIA, and the 9/11 commission, say Atta wasn't in Prague April 9, 2001, because his cell phone was used in Florida that day. But there is no evidence of who used the phone. Atta could have lent it to a confederate. (It wouldn't have worked in Europe anyway.)

So, which IS IT?
Seems the Commission is saying Atta WAS here, and WASN'T here in practically the same breath!!!

He was in Florida in May, (or in Prague) but either way, he had a cell phone registered in his name in the US, on APRIL 9, 2000..
Yet, Commission officials insist he didn't apply for a visa until MAY 18, 2000, and didn't arrive in the US until JUNE 3, 2000..

These people need to be charged, and forced to testify before a Grand Jury, every one of them...
Then indicted, tried, and sent to jail for a very long time..
I know, it will never happen..

53 posted on 08/14/2005 6:43:27 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: iconoclast
It will be interesting to see the reaction to this by the administration.

Yes, it will.............

Bush chastises Ashcroft in private statements at the White House

< snip >

Ashcroft, Justice rebuked

In opening remarks before commissioners began their inquiry, Bush told commission members he was disappointed with the Justice Department and its treatment of Jamie Gorelick, a commission member and a former Justice Department official.

NBC's David Gregory reported that Bush specifically criticized Attorney General John Ashcroft in connection with Gorelick's treatment. The president told commissioners he did not approve of the “fingerpointing.”

54 posted on 08/14/2005 6:48:10 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: smoothsailing

A smoking gun for Hillary in '08. It's surprising to see a major paper carrying this story.


55 posted on 08/14/2005 6:58:45 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Graymatter

Ping to #54


56 posted on 08/14/2005 6:59:17 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: MamaLucci; Graymatter
Suspicions already confirmed.

Fox News Channel has been firehosing cold water on this story all morning.

There was a REAL spinmeister on Fox and Friends, some schmuck no one has ever heard of. God, has our nation ever been in such a shape? And, less than twenty years from the departure of Reagan from the White House.

Only a new party will suffice to get us back on track.

57 posted on 08/14/2005 7:00:18 AM PDT by iconoclast (Wastin' away again in hearts-and-minds'ville.)
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To: Pro-Bush

The Sunday talk shows ignored it too.

The FoxSunday news show panel with Chris Wallace discussed it and several said they didn't believe it!


58 posted on 08/14/2005 7:01:30 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Caipirabob

It really adds truth to the belief that the entire Clinton administration was based on the need of a set amount of american deaths.


59 posted on 08/14/2005 7:02:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: smoothsailing

Just watched the Fox News Sunday panel discuss this issue...and none of them thought it is credible, concluding it's a "conspiracy theory".

If Fox doesn't focus on this....no one will.

Methinks the story's going nowhere.


60 posted on 08/14/2005 7:04:10 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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