[js1138]

IOW, if the investigations show that intelligence is a causative factor for "certain features" of biological life, then the ID hypothesis is vindicated. Since intelligence is commonly seen as an emergent property of self-organizing complexity and animals are known to choose their mates - that conclusion, IMHO, is soon forthcoming.

Since female choice is a concept discovered and written about by Darwin, I suppose you will have to accept him as the first great ID thinker. He was, of course, opposed for many years on this.

Mate selection has, since Darwin, always been a key part of evolution theory, and since selection is seen as the designer in mainstream biology, I suppose there has always been an element of intelligent design embedded in mainstream biology.

I rather doubt this is what you have in mind.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for your reply!

Mate selection has, since Darwin, always been a key part of evolution theory, and since selection is seen as the designer in mainstream biology, I suppose there has always been an element of intelligent design embedded in mainstream biology. I rather doubt this is what you have in mind.

Not at all. This is exactly what I have in mind. It goes to the point that ID neither denies nor replaces evolution theory - ID supplements it by bringing "intelligent cause" front and center to explain "certain features".

After all, the objective of the ID movement was always (and still is) about getting methodological naturalism removed as a presupposition where it forces the orthodoxy of happenstance on science. As Reagan might have said: tear down the walls!