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To: PatrickHenry; Aetius; Alamo-Girl; AndrewC; Asphalt; betty boop; bondserv; bvw; D Rider; dartuser; ..
"[T]he essential characteristics of science are:

- (1) It is guided by natural law;

- (2) It has to be explanatory by reference to nature law;

- (3) It is testable against the empirical world;

- (4) Its conclusions are tentative, i.e. are not necessarily the final word; and

- (5) Its is falsifiable."

Is it any surprise to anyone here that PH left out the most important element defining science: It must be OBJECTIVE ??

Any way, even by PH's definition, evolution fails the test. It is emotion, fear, belief, and unyielding devotion, to the point that the ends always justify the means. In other words, evolution is a religion of the same class as Islam.

497 posted on 08/17/2005 9:24:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: editor-surveyor; PatrickHenry; betty boop
Thank you for the ping!

PatrickHenry, I assert that the problem with your list is in points 1 and 2:

"[T]he essential characteristics of science are:

- (1) It is guided by natural law;

- (2) It has to be explanatory by reference to nature law;

If one views "nature" as only being "matter in all its motions" then he has swept every non-corporeal off the table.

That would include such things as information (successful communications), mathematical structures, geometries, forms, intelligence, etc. In the fields of mathematics and physics which deal with such things, some theories may be beyond direct observation or empirical testing (your point number 3) and may instead have to be supported by indirect observations and tests.

500 posted on 08/17/2005 9:34:51 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: editor-surveyor
Is it any surprise to anyone here that PH left out the most important element defining science: It must be OBJECTIVE ??

Still waiing for that citation for your claim that new rock has been dated to 300 - 500 million years by potassium argon methods, Mr. Objective.

506 posted on 08/18/2005 12:14:38 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor (ID: the 'scientific hypothesis' that somebody did something to something or other sometime somehow.)
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