[Nowhere Man]

Yup, you were so successful that you could only replace half your salary. Real successful.

Nope, never your fault.



As the metrosexual GEICO Caveman says, "That's so condescending." How do you know so much about his or any of our situations? Things happen, things we do not control. I know almost all of us have made bad choices from time to time, sometimes we do pay for that but again, even if we make the best choices, other factors come into play and things happen, bad luck, illness, wars, economic downturns, just about anything can turn a rich man or a middle class person into a struggling person overnite. I will say a prayer for you tonite that God where He will open your heart and you will see the other side of things. As my father always said to me, "we don't make it on our own, we all need help every now and then." I'm sure you had help along the way into doing what you are doing. Walk around in the other guy's shoes. Think about it.

[Toddsterpatriot]

I know almost all of us have made bad choices from time to time, sometimes we do pay for that but again, even if we make the best choices, other factors come into play and things happen,

Yes, poor Havoc had no control over his employer or their staffing decisions. I'm more interested in what happened after he was laid off.

Havoc said "Bush improved my life tremendously with his new policy. I went from a salaried "good job" to working two part time jobs with no benefits making less than half my salary and have no time and can barely pay my bills. Bush is a failure." Now, if you were to assign blame for the circumstance that Havoc is in, from 100% to 0%, what % do you assign to President Bush? What % do you assign to Havoc?