[A. Pole]

Had nothing to do with me. Nope, never your fault.

Does it work both ways? When he was making much more money it was his merit?

[Toddsterpatriot]

IIRC Havoc was a 36 year old making $30,000 a year. I'd say that if he's now working 2 jobs and only making $15,000, he has problems that go well beyond outsourcing. Maybe if he really were a math major, instead of lying about being one, he'd be more employable.

Perhaps he can go to work at WalMart or Circuit City? I think he could even get insurance, 401K and stock options. Unless those jobs were outsourced too?

Maybe pray that Havoc gets a better attitude.He'll never get a real job if he whines during the interview.